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Unsealed: A Closer Look At Revelation 6 And “The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse”


By ICA

Revelation 6:1, “And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see…”

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Were John’s apocalyptic snapshots and descriptions of the “Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” in the Book of Revelation pointing to events that would only take place nearly 2000 years after the visions were first revealed? All too often, many of today’s Christian teachers and Bible prophecy experts have repeated the belief that the entirety of the Book of Revelation, with the exception of the first three chapters, are to be understood in futuristic terms only. I have done this myself in the past. Whether it be the Seven Seals or the Seven Trumpets or the Seven Bowls of wrath, everything contained therein and described by John from Revelation 4:1 onward must be treated as little more than a description of apocalyptic earth-shattering events that we, as Christians, will never witness taking place upon the world in which we live, events that can only begin to come to fruition after an imminent rapture has suddenly removed all followers of Christ from the face of the earth to deliver them from the impending wrath of God and the last-days Beast of Revelation. If we take the time to engage in a careful examination of the text, however, we may begin to see that some of the events often understood as yet to come, are events that are already taking place today.

An Overview Of History: The Islamic Beast Of Revelation – The Past And The Present

After careful study, I have come to the conclusion that, judging from the description of events and their sequence provided for us in Scripture, the “Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” described in the first four Seals of Revelation 6 are four separate stages of the last-days Beast empire upon the earth — the empire of Islam. Beginning with its birth and growth, to its effect upon those under its power and the effect it has had and will have upon God’s elect, the Seals provide us with a general overview of the last 1400 years until immediately after the tribulation, an appointed time whereby the world will then witness the complete destruction of the Islamic Beast at the Second Coming of Christ in power and glory.

To understand why, we must first begin by reading through Revelation 6-7 alongside Matthew 24, ascertaining specific parallels that solidify the placement of the Seven Seals in documented history, parallels that I am sure you will agree are quite eye opening when laid out in full. The following are those parallels between the Seals of Revelation chapters 6 and 7, and Matthew 24. Closer attention will be paid to specific details surrounding the sixth parallel itself:

Parallel 1: Conquest Through Deception and the Crowning of Mohammed

* Matthew 24:5 — Many will come in Christ’s name and deceive many.
* Revelation 6:2 — The 1st Seal – White Horse and rider with bow who is given a crown; went out conquering and to conquer.

Qur’an Sura 4:157, 171, “… they said in boast, ‘We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary’ … but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them … of a surety they killed him not … O People of the Book [Christians]! Commit no excesses in your religion … Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah … Say not ‘Trinity’ : desist … for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: far exalted is He above having a son… ”

“We proclaim that we will conquer Rome, like Constantinople was conquered once, as it will be conquered again … We will rule the world, as has been said by the Prophet Muhammad.” – Former Jordanian Minister Ali Al-Faqir

In “The Best Biography of Prophet Mohammed”, Islamic scholars Grand Muhaddith Master Abdullah Ben Sadek, Anne Khadeijah Darwish and Ahmad Darwish write that, “In the Koran, Allah calls His Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, by many blessed names … In his sayings one finds many other names that were frequently used by his Companions and followers. These include names such as the: Chosen, Selected, Father of Kasim, the Beloved, Messenger of the Lord of the Worlds, Accepted, Intercessor, the Fearfully Aware, Amender, Outward, Guardian, Truthful, Confirmer, Guide, Master of the Children of Adam, Master of the Messengers, Leader of the Fearfully Aware, Leader of the Glorious Radiant Ones, Beloved of Allah, Friend of the Merciful, Possessor of the Visited Pool, Intercessor, the Praiseworthy Station, Possessor of Means, Excellence and the High Degree, Possessor of the Crown …” [1]. In the Islamic world, Mohammed is regarded as “the greatest of all the prophets and messengers of God and the crown of all creation[2].

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14th century Book of Kings depicts Mohammed enthroned and surrounded by companions

Some may say that the crown of Revelation 6:2 must be literal and must be referring to an actual king who wears a literal, physical crown. However, if the horse and rider are obviously symbolic, it only stands to reason that the crown can also be symbolic as well. According to Islamic lecturer Ahmed Deedat, “Moses and Muhammad were Prophets as well as kings. A prophet means a man who receives Divine Revelation for the Guidance of Man and this Guidance he conveys to God’s creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears a [literal] crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch – if the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment – He is a King[3].

Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim who converted to Christianity, once described Islam as a “Christian Cult,” a characterization of Islam to which I would agree wholeheartedly. Mohammed’s religion borrows bits and pieces from Judeo-Christian texts and teachings, but then twists and corrupts its Truth. As Christians, we know that Christ is God. He is the Prince of Peace. Mohammed, who received the kingly crown of “prophethood” before his conquests, claimed that his religion was the “Religion of Peace.” He acknowledged Mary and the virgin birth of Jesus, called Jesus the Christ, claimed to represent the true faith of the God of Abraham and claimed to believe in many Biblical prophets and figures such as Adam & Eve, Noah, Moses, David and others. But Mohammed’s teachings are blasphemous manipulations of both history and Scripture which promote a deviant and Antichristic theology (1 John 4:3) by denying Christ as God in the flesh and His sacrificial death on the cross. Much like Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses today, Mohammed’s teachings also deny the Triune nature of One God. The “prophet” of Islam claimed to come in the name of the God of Abraham to the Jews and in the name of Christ to the Christians, but Mohammed’s teachings deceived many then and are still deceiving many this very day.

Parallel 2: Islam’s Ceaseless Aggression Against The Non-Muslim World

* Matthew 24:6-7a — Wars and rumors of war, nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom.
* Revelation 6:3-4 — The 2nd Seal – Red Horse rider given a great sword, takes peace from the earth.

Qur’an Sura 9:5, “… when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship [of Allah] and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free …”

“I have been sent just before the Hour (Judgment Day) with the sword, so that Allah will be worshipped alone …” (Mohammed, Hadith  al-Jaami’, 2831)

sword_prophetBehold the Sword of Islam: Jihad. The final marching orders the newly “crowned” prophet of Allah gave to his followers just before his death was for them to continually ambush, capture or kill non-Muslims until all submit to Islam. Osama Bin Laden, in a 2003 sermon, spoke of chapter 9 verse 5 of the Qur’an as the be-all and end-all of Islam, saying that Allah had “revealed the verse of the Sword to [Mohammed] his servant and messenger, in order to establish truth and abolish falsehood.” And this verse has become the greatest source of inspiration for mass-murder in the history of humanity. As Mideast historian and author Raymond Ibrahim writes in a 2012 article titled The Historical Reality of the Muslim Conquests:

“Few events of history are so well documented and attested to as are these conquests, which commenced soon after the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (632) and tapered off circa 750. Large swathes of the Old World — from the India in the east, to Spain in the west — were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time, with more after (e.g., the Ottoman conquests)… According to the Muslim historical tradition, the majority of non-Muslim peoples of the Old World, not desiring to submit to Islam or its laws (Sharia), fought back, though most were eventually defeated and subsumed… Muslim historians often justify the actions of the early Islamic invaders by juxtaposing the jihad injunctions found in Islamic scriptures. It should also be noted that, to Muslims, the Islamic conquests are seen as acts of altruism: they are referred to as futuh, which literally means “openings” — that is, the countries conquered were “opened” for the light of Islam to enter and guide its infidel inhabitants. Thus to Muslims, there is nothing to regret or apologize for concerning the conquests; they are seen as for the good of those who were conquered (i.e., the ancestors of today’s Muslims).”

Dr. Bill Warner, founder and director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI), likewise minces no words in exposing the true history of Islamic hostility.

Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest… In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad. Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school.

As long as Islam has existed, it has never known peace. The persecution of Jews and Christians, the atmosphere of “holy” wars waged around the globe and nations being forced to declare war in response to Islamic aggression, continues to this very day. Even now, Jihadists vow that non-Muslims “will never know peace” until they convert to Islam and worship none but Allah alone.

Parallel 3: The Fruit Of Islam’s Ceaseless Aggression — Hunger, Destitution, Upheaval , Strife, Inequality, Earthquakes …

* Matthew 24:7b-13 — Famines, pestilences and earthquakes, lawlessness abounds.
* Revelation 6:5-6 — The 3rd Seal – Black Horse with “scales/balances” bringing famine, burdens and “troublesome laws”.

Qur’an Sura 5:33, “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land [spreading non-Islamic beliefs] is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned …”

Qur’an Sura 24:2, “Let not compassion move you from carrying out [Allah’s] law …”

305886John describes the rider of the Black Horse in Revelation 6:5 as having “scales” or “balances” in his hands, employing the Greek word “zygos” which is also used metaphorically to refer to any sort of “burden” or “bondage” as well as the imposition of “troublesome laws.” Not only is inequality rampant in the Islamic world where Muslim men are considered superior to women and all non-Muslims in general, Islam is also a works-based system whereby Allah weighs the “good and bad deeds” of Muslims on a scale to determine who earns entry into Heaven and who does not. In every facet of daily life a Muslim’s conduct must be based upon a strict set of Islamic laws, called the Sharia, and anyone failing to follow Allah’s burdensome edicts must suffer draconian punishments, non-Musims included. But take a look at the Islamic world today. Is it exemplified by peace and justice and social harmony because of Allah’s laws? To the contrary, the Islamic world is ravaged by war, by deprivation, by desert and famine and starvation and pestilences, conditions that are true both physically and spiritually, both literally and figuratively.

Because of “Sharia lawlessness” the “Religion of Peace” is typified by widespread destruction and disparity, and any number of recent headlines bear this out all too well. In Sudan, for example, slavery is explicitly permitted and tens of thousands of Christians are held in bondage, taken as slaves and face starvation because of Sharia laws instituted by an Islamist government. In Mali, 4.6 million people are threatened with starvation following Islamist advances in the north. Starvation threatens more than 7 million citizens in Afghanistan as over 90% of the country’s agriculture is destroyed by drought. In Somalia, Islamist militants deprive 1.3 million people of food, clean water and health care after banning humanitarian aid. In Chad, children starve to death as Islamic “doctors” with “healing gifts from Allah” throw common sense to the wind. Islamists are killing aid workers in Pakistan for trying to save lives with “un-Islamic” polio vaccines. Nigeria faces famine because most of the farmers in the north are threatened by Islamist attacks seeking to impose Sharia Law upon all. As Islamists engage in an all-out war to oust Bashar Al-Assad and implement an Islamist state in Syria, a flesh-eating parasite dubbed the “Aleppo Boil” sweeps across the country while famine grips a desperate, war-weary population. And this is all just the tip of the iceberg.

The fruit of Islam and its laws have produced and will continue to produce the type of conditions that precipitate and perpetuate all sort of pestilences, all manner of plagues, any number of conflicts and hardships both inside and outside the Islamic world. It should be noted that the Greek word for “earthquakes” is “seismos” and also means “commotion” or “tempest”, as in Matthew 8:24 when “suddenly a great tempest [seismos] arose on the sea, so that the boat was covered with the waves.” We have seen and will continue to see “seismic events” both literally (geophysical and hydrological hazards such as earthquakes, hurricanes/typhoons, tornadoes, etc.) and figuratively (Islamic wars, acts of terrorism, insurrections, revolutions). Islam is a prime example of missing the mark of God — “hamartia” or “sin” — and the whole of creation groans and labors with birth pangs because of it (Romans 8:22).

Parallel 4: The ‘Man Of Lawlessness’, Destruction, Death

* Matthew 24:15-24 — Antichrist and the Abomination of Desolation.
* Revelation 6:7-8 — The 4th Seal – Pale (Green) Horse with Death and Hell.

Revelation 6:8, “And I looked, and behold a ‘chlōros’ horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the ‘thērion’ [beasts] of the earth.”

Qur’an Sura 9:111, “… They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed …”

Qur’an Sura 3:151, “… cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers …”

Qur’an: Sura 4:89, “… Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them …”

In an April, 2012 op-ed for Arutz Sheva, Italian journalist Giulio Meotti surmised that “the drive for Islamic purity is going to banish all traces of pre-Islamic pasts. When the Islamists will have prevailed, the Middle East will be completely green, the colour of Islam” [4]. In Revelation 6:8, John describes the “fourth horseman” as being “chlōros”, which translates literally as “green.” It is where we get the word “chlorophyll” from, a green pigment found in cyanobacteria and the chloroplasts of algae and plants. Green is the official color of Islam, and this green “fourth horseman” is described as having power over the fourth part of the earth. It is no coincidence that today Islam now has dominion over a fourth part of the earth. The “fourth horseman” has the power to “kill with sword.” Islam is spread through Jihad, the “Sword of Islam.” The “fourth horseman” also kills with hunger/famine. Where Islam rises, deprivation and Sharia lawlessness quickly follows, so much so that they would even prefer to see children starve to death than to see them receive life-saving aid from the “Christian West.” The “fourth horseman” kills with “death”, and the love of death and martyrdom for the cause of Allah permeates Islamic culture to the point where Islamists will even openly declare that they “love death more than you love life.” Lastly, the “fourth horseman” is described as killing with “the beasts of the earth.” The Greek word for beasts is “thērion” and is very likely being used metaphorically to refer to “savage”, “brutal” and “bestial” men — a perfect description of what we are witnessing today in the radical world of Islam’s death seekers. If Antichrist is a man, we can be certain that he is now on the verge of being revealed. If Antichrist is a system, it is already here.

Parallel 5: Continual, Intensifying Persecution of God’s Elect

* Matthew 24:9-13, 16-28 — Many delivered up to be afflicted and killed. Many fall away from the faith. Great Tribulation.
* Revelation 6:9-11 — The 5th Seal – Saints in heaven are told that fellow servants are to be killed.

Many fell away from the faith due to forced conversions and near-genocidal persecution of Jews and Christians at the hands of Muslims all throughout Islamic history. Andrew G. Bostom, author of The Legacy of Jihad and The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism, writes in a 2006 article for FrontPage Magazine that:

Forced conversions in Islamic history are not exceptional—they have been the norm, across three continents—Asia, Africa, and Europe—for over 13 centuries. Orders for conversion were decreed under all the early Islamic dynasties—Umayyads, Abbasids, Fatimids, and Mamluks. Additional extensive examples of forced conversion were recorded under both Seljuk and Ottoman Turkish rule (the latter until its collapse in the 20th century), the Shi’ite Safavid and Qajar dynasties of Persia/Iran, and during the jihad ravages on the Indian subcontinent, beginning with the early 11th century campaigns of Mahmud of Ghazni, and recurring under the Delhi Sultanate, and Moghul dynasty until the collapse of Muslim suzerainty in the 18th century following the British conquest of India.

Moreover, during jihad — even the jihad campaigns of the 20th century [i.e., the jihad genocide of the Armenians during World War I, the Moplah jihad in Southern India [1921], the jihad against the Assyrians of Iraq [early 1930s], the jihads against the Chinese of Indonesia and the Christian Ibo of southern Nigeria in the 1960s, and the jihad against the Christians and Animists of the southern Sudan from 1983 to 2001], the (dubious) concept of “no compulsion” … has always been meaningless. A consistent practice was to enslave populations taken from outside the boundaries of the “Dar al Islam”, where Islamic rule (and Law) prevailed. Inevitably fresh non-Muslim slaves, including children, were Islamized within a generation, their ethnic and linguistic origins erased.

It is my view that we are already within the 5th Seal, which encompasses the Great Tribulation of the elect spoken of by the prophet Daniel and John in Revelation, as well as Christ Himself. After a relative lull, Islamic persecution has literally exploded once again in the aftermath of 9/11 and the rise of the Arab Spring. The Prophet Daniel writes that this final Beast would be “dreadful and terrifying” and would “speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One” and “intend to make alterations in times and in law” (Daniel 7:7, 25). While the Muslim world seeks to rewrite history in a deceptive effort to buttress its own religious and political declarations and continually seeks to impose Sharia Law whenever and wherever it can, Iran prepares for a nuclear Armageddon and threatens to turn Jerusalem into a mass graveyard, calling for the death of all Jews worldwide and the annihilation of the state of Israel.  Hamas and Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood seek to join the fray. In Egypt, Christians are experiencing the worst persecution seen from Islamists in hundreds of years, with many now unable to buy or sell. Islamist organizations distribute leaflets calling for the killing of all Coptic Christians who refuse to convert to Islam. In Syria, Islamic rebels behead Christians in front of a cheering crowd and issue an ultimatum to either convert, leave, or die for their Christian faith. In Iraq, Muslim clerics issue a fatwa (religious decree) demanding that Christians either convert to Islam or be killed. Meanwhile, men run for their lives, women plead for God’s mercy, children scream in fear as Islamist attacks continue unabated in Iraq and elsewhere in the Islamic world in an effort to “cleanse” the land of Christians. Intense Christian persecution is “coursing through Muslim-majority nations from one end of the globe to the other.” From the Ivory Coast to Nigeria, from Sudan and Ethiopia, to Tunisia, Gaza, Lebanon, Jordan, Pakistan, Iran, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tanzania, the Maldives, Bangladesh and elsewhere, Islamic persecution is showing no sign of slowing down any time soon. And it is only going to get much worse. As one reporter wrote recently in The Telegraph, Christianity is “close to extinction” in the Middle East because of Islam.

The Islamic Beast Of Revelation – The Future

1 Corinthians 3:16, “Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?”

Hebrews 13:15, “Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name.”

1 Corinthians 3:17, “If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.”

It is difficult to imagine this massive persecution of Christians, as horrendous as it has become, getting any worse than it already is today. While Christians are being killed and expelled from war-torn areas and locations heavily influenced by Al-Qaeda affiliated terror organizations and other like-minded groups, they are still somewhat tolerated as “dhimmis” (second-class citizens) under many Muslim governments. As long as Christians are “tolerated” they are still able to offer up the sacrifice of praise to YHWH today, providing they keep a low profile. Such relative “freedom”, however, hangs by a delicate thread. If a religious leader of great significance to the Islamic world were to suddenly stand against the Temple of God and demands that all non-Muslims convert to Islam and worship none other than the god of Islam, then any so-called “freedom” a Christian is granted today would come to an immediate and abrupt end. We’ve already seen local Muslim leaders issuing fatwas (religious decrees) in places like Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Pakistan demanding that Christians either convert to Islam, or die. But a similar fatwa from someone like the Mahdi or the Caliph declaring that the time had now come for all non-Muslims to worship none other than Allah or die would send immediate shockwaves across every corner of the Muslim world. And if such an abominable fatwa were decreed “then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be” (Matthew 24:21). Echoing this foreboding sentiment, the United Muslim Nations International — an Islamist organization seeking Muslim world domination and the re-establishment of the Islamic Caliphate — minces no words in its declaration that “Christianity should be destroyed and wiped from the face of the earth … Islamic Power has returned upon the face of the earth and the Revived Global Caliphate has set eyes on the West to once and for all rid the world of Christianity and there is nothing you can do about it” [5]. But there is One who can, and who will, do something about it …

Revelation 14:15,And another angel came out of the temple, crying out with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, ‘Put in your sickle and reap, for the hour to reap has come, because the harvest of the earth is ripe.’”

The “Four Horsemen” have arisen and are now all riding together as one upon the earth. But what follows next will be a completely new pedigree of horse and class of Rider unlike any of the others before it, one that will see to it that the dominion of this Beast be “taken away, annihilated and destroyed forever” (Daniel 7:26), which now brings me to the 6th Parallel, broken down into individual parts:

Parallel 6a: Post-Tribulational Cosmic Signs Preceding the Second Coming of Christ

* Matthew 24:29, “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken”

This corresponds with:

* Revelation 6:12-13, “And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood, And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth …”

Parallel 6b: Judgement Comes – The Wicked are Gripped with Terror at the Power and Glory of the Coming Christ

* Matthew 24:30, “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

This corresponds with:

* Revelation 6:15-17, “And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains, And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”

Parallel 6c: The Deliverance and Salvation of God’s Elect

* Matthew 24:31, “And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

This corresponds with:

* Revelation 7:1-4,9,14 “And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God … Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: [and there were] sealed an hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel … After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands … these are the ones who come out of the great tribulation.”

He is coming soon ...

He is coming soon …

In writing “And after these things I saw” at the beginning of Revelation 7, John continues describing the post-tribulational signs he had witnessed at the 6th Seal a few verses earlier. Remember, although the text is inspired by the Spirit of God, chapter and verse divisions were added later by men. There is one single narrative flow between Revelation chapter 6 and chapter 7. Whereas the “first horseman” came upon a white horse claiming to come in Christ’s name and was given a “crown of kingship” during his efforts to deceive and oppress the saints, a “Fifth Horseman” will Himself be riding upon a white horse announcing deliverance, bringing justice, issuing judgements in favor of the saints of the Most High and giving the kingdom over to them (Daniel 7:22), for “He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God” (Revelation 19:11-13). It will be none other than the King of Kings Himself, our Savior and Deliverer, Yeshua (Jesus) Ha’Maschiach (the Christ).

Declaring The End From The Beginning And The Revelation Of Our Savior

Isaiah 46:10a, 13b, “Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, ‘My purpose will be established … And I will grant salvation in Zion, And My glory for Israel.”

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown write in their commentary of Revelation that “the seven seals, the seven trumpets, and the seven vials, are not consecutive, but parallel, and ending in the same consummation. They present the unfolding of God’s plans for bringing about the grand end under three different aspects, mutually complementing each other” [6]. This Semitic writing style is something that we also find in the Genesis account regarding creation, which is why some skeptics claim that there are two different creation accounts when in fact there is only one. In Revelation, the Seals reveal to us snapshots and descriptions of the rise of the last-days Beast, the ungodliness of Islam’s sordid history, and its effect upon the earth and upon the Israel of God as it grows and strengthens, followed by the Revelation of Christ’s return in power and great glory to deliver His people and judge the wicked. Due to the Semitic style of writing employed by John, we see a “rewind” as it were after his description of all seven Seals to then shift focus on the judgements that take place during and immediately after the tribulation (called “trumpets”), and then a refocusing of his “camera” once again upon the end-result effect of each one of the seven judgements (called “vials” or “bowls”). The Seventh Seal, Seventh Trumpet and Seventh Vial/Bowl all end together right around the same time in the eschaton — at the Second Coming of Christ.

Revelation 13:4, “And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, ‘Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?’”

Many in the Church today have been taught that most of Revelation is yet to happen in the future, but the fact of the matter is that much of what John saw has already taken place and is in the process of taking place right now, today. Although the Islamic world has been in a relative “cocoon-like” state for much of the 20th century since the Islamic Caliphate received its mortal “head wound” in 1924, a new phase in its metamorphosis is now being revealed as it heals. But what is emerging, however, is far from beautiful. Though there are many who recognize that the Islamist ideology espoused by Al Qaeda and its ilk has metastasized since 9/11 throughout the Muslim world, the call to reality has unfortunately fallen largely on the deaf ears of Western leadership, both secular and Christian. Nations can fight against armies, against a foe that is well defined, but a religious ideology that recognizes no borders, no limits, no definition of peace apart from its own is an ideology that no nation will ever defeat, and an ideology that will continue to become more mainstream in the Islamic world each and every day until its fiery end at the epiphany of Christ Jesus in power and great glory:

2 Thessalonians 2:8, “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming”

Habakkuk 3:3, 6, 11-13, “His brightness was like the light; He had rays flashing from His hand, And there His power was hidden… He stood and measured the earth; He looked and startled the nations. And the everlasting mountains were scattered, The perpetual hills bowed… The sun and moon stood still in their habitation; At the light of Your arrows they went, At the shining of Your glittering spear. You marched through the land in indignation; You trampled the nations in anger. You went forth for the salvation of Your people, For salvation with Your Anointed. You struck the head from the house of the wicked, By laying bare from foundation to neck.”

Romans 11:26, “And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: ‘The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob'”

Daniel 7:27, “Then the sovereignty, the dominion and the greatness of all the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be given to the people of the saints of the Highest One; His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all the dominions will serve and obey Him.”

Revised 4/4/2016
  1. 05/02/2013 at 4:59 PM

    Who are you, ‘ICA’? I am Albert W. Loescher
    Albert, wary weary watchman

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  2. 05/02/2013 at 5:57 PM

    “Nice post!” I agree with “most” ALL of what you have written (‘ya know I can’t agree with 100%…that would be asking too much)!!! :)

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  3. 05/02/2013 at 8:55 PM

    I have for some time believed that much of The Revelation has been fulfilled and that we are continuing to see Revelation fulfilled. Much of the world is already in great tribulation with the slaughter of Christians by Islam in the Middle East and Africa and Islam is intensifying its conquest around the entire world and succeeding so it just makes sense, so you have confirmed what I have thought for a long while. You have written an excellent analysis of what is happening as it pertains to Biblical prophecy and I too think we are at the 5th Seal and I keep wondering and asking “How much longer, Lord?” Rev. 6:10

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    • 10/26/2014 at 10:54 PM

      How much longer, LORD? Rev. 11:15-19, How about until the 7th trumpet? The last one…

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  4. 05/02/2013 at 10:37 PM

    AMEN organicnatu I believe it too and I know in my heart it won’t be long before we see our LORD. What a day that will be when our JESUS we will see

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  5. 05/03/2013 at 12:09 AM

    I don’t understand why most of Christendom believe that they will never have their faith tested. Christians know the history of the Jewish people; scattered, and hated, where ever they wandered, punished for worshipping idols, and false gods. Yet, the majority of Christians still refuse to leave Babylon. They refuse to meet with G-d on His Holy days, and continue to celebrate pagan holidays instead. They will say, “well, that’s not what it means to us now.” This is how they honor the Lord, with pagan holidays, dressed up with Christian symbols. They will celebrate Easter by holding a sun rise service, just as their Pagan, sun worshiping ancestors did. They continue to hold the Sabbath on Sunday, instead of on Saturday, as G-d ordained, and having no authority to make that change.
    Christians know what happened to the children of Israel. Do they think that the G-d of the universe will go to their celebrations, and allow His Holy days to be spurned and ignored? The invitations to His Feasts were written with the precious blood of His Son.
    I firmly believe that we are a chosen generation, selected by G-d to live at this precise hour. I believe that we will go through the Tribulation, be tested, and purified by fire. “Those who endure to the end shall be saved.” Come out of Babylon!

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    • Anonymous
      06/26/2013 at 7:32 AM

      I am a pastor, the pastor of Winds Of Change ministries in Ozark Alabama i have a challenge of 1,000 dollars. i will give anyone 1,000 dollars if they can prove a pre tribulation, mid tribulation or a post tribulation coming of Jesus within six months of the end of the seven year tribulation period to establish his kingdom on earth for a thousand years.. i will also give anyone 2,000 if u can prove the wrath of God that we cant b a part of as christian is poured out on the earth DURING the seven year tribulation period. my number is 334-379-0964 this is not a juke and it isnt fake. its time to put what we r being taught to the test call me pastor Bill verdell 334-379-0964 if i dont answerPLEASE LEAVE A MESSAGE.

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      • Mike
        06/26/2013 at 7:56 AM

        This will be easy.

        BIBLE TEACHES PERSECUTION, NOT ESCAPE FROM IT

        Neither the Bible or history records God removing any Christian from any time of persecution. Rather, the Bible says

        (Joh 15:20) “Remember……If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you;….”

        (Mat 5:10) “Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

        (Act 14:22) strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying, “Through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God.”

        (Php 1:29) For to you it has been granted for Christ’s sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,

        (2Ti 3:12) Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.

        WHAT JESUS AND PAUL TAUGHT

        JESUS (Mat 24:29-31) is “But immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days ……….And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

        PAUL (1Th 4:16-17) For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

        Jesus taught His return would be at the last trumpet, which takes place at the end of the tribulation. Paul taught that Jesus’ return would be with a trumpet. Jesus taught the elect would be gathered together to Him after the tribulation period. Paul taught that believers will caught up to be with Him after the tribulation. How could it be said any clearer? God is not going to beam us out of harm’s way at the first sign of trouble..

        Okay, shall I contact you to provide an address to send the check?

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        • Anonymous
          08/09/2013 at 9:27 PM

          God does not always remove his children from “persecution” but, he always removes them from his WRATH!! Noah is the first of many examples. He tucked him safely into the ARK before his wrath was poured out on the unbelievers. Lot, the same thing…and so on.

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          • ICA
            08/09/2013 at 10:40 PM

            Hi Anonymous, Noah and Lot were not taken off planet during the wrath. And the wrath that we are specifically saved from, according to Scripture, is not found until after tribulation. Please see the article titled “Lost in Translation: ‘Not Appointed Unto Wrath’ – What Scripture Is Really Saying” and feel free to share your comments.

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            • wandakate
              07/02/2014 at 6:32 PM

              The “WRATH” of GOD is the bowl/vial judgments and they are the last 7 on earth. They are specifically for the unrepentant sinners. The “seal and trumpet” judgments are the “wrath” of Satan, not GOD. Everyone is going to be here for the wrath of Satan as scripture says, “Let them grow together until the harvest when the wheat and the tare will be separated”. No one is going anywhere until the “last trumpet”. The trumpet shall sound and the dead in CHRIST shall rise and we shall all be changed. Right then JESUS comes. That is what is known as the rapture. It happens mid-trib. Read it in Chapter 11, it’s right after the part about the two witnesses. It says that JESUS will take possession of the earth and he’s taking it from Satan, the evil ruler of this world.

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          • 09/01/2015 at 10:15 AM

            First, Noah, his family and all kinds of clean and unclean beasts (the same beasts that Peter saw taken up in a sheet…gentiles) enter into the Ark (a type of being “in Christ”) but the wrath of God did not fall until the end of the seven days. The Ark rose at the same time as the rains fell. Peter tells us that the Flood represents “baptism that saves us.” It is our death “in Him.” Jesus suffered the wrath of God on the Cross and we also died with Him, being baptised into His death. So the Flood is our resurrection OUT OF God’s wrath. Noah landed on Ararat on Firstfruits!
            Second, Noah, a preacher of righteousness was persecuted while building the Ark. Lot also was persecuted, and escaped through the fire and brimstone.
            We are in the Ark (in Christ) now, waiting for the fulness of the Gentiles to enter (which happens DURING the seven “day.” THEN afterward, the wrath falls. And no, the Ark is not full of “tribulation saints” as some believe. It is full of those who make up the Body of Christ, the Church.

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          • 11/17/2015 at 8:34 AM

            Peter tells us that the Flood represents baptism that saves us. Noah, his family and all the clean and unclean beasts (the same ones that Peter saw raised and lowered in the white sheet prior to the visit from the two men) represent those who have been buried with Christ in baptism, and have been raised up and seated with Him in heavenly places (Eph). Notice that the Ark landed on the Mountain on what would later become the Feast of Firstfruits, Jesus resurrection. Jesus is the Ark, which is synonymous with the Temple (three compartments, one Door) and we escape the wrath of God, not by being removed from the earth, but by being in Christ. God is not concerned with our flesh. It counts for nothing. The flesh is the “old man” which we are to put off and crucify. It is not possible for a saint to suffer the wrath of God. Even if our bodies are somehow caught up in His wrath and killed, our spirits and souls are safe in Him. Paul tells us in the book of Romans that the wrath of God is even now being revealed against all the ungodliness of those who suppress the truth by their unrighteousness…and the saints are still on earth!

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        • wandakate
          07/02/2014 at 6:27 PM

          Mike: the only ones that I’m aware of that were removed were Noah and his family. Enoch and Elijah were removed so they did not experience a physical death. You are right, we will be here, there is no escape route. Christian are deceived into believing they will be called out of the world before the poop hits the fan and they will not be. The Bible says, the great falling away will happen and the man of sin/the man of perdition will have to appear BEFORE JESUS comes the second time for the deal saints and the saints who are still alive at that time. The “feel good” gospel is a huge “LIE”…

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          • wandakate
            07/02/2014 at 6:34 PM

            Mike: I forgot about LOT. And his wife turned to look back and turned into a pillar of salt. Sorry…

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          • 07/03/2014 at 12:08 AM

            Hi Ivar, Wandakate, and Mike,

            I believe that we will be snatched up into the air to meet Yeshua, and that we will be changed in the twinkeling of an eye, after the resurrection, after the falling away, and after the Antichrist is revealed, and right before GOD’s wrath is poured out.

            Like everyone else I am not certain what the “strong delusion” will be. Nevertheless, I have often wondered if the pre-trib rapture doctrine could part of it?

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        • Anonymous
          02/11/2015 at 1:48 AM

          Thessalonians 5:9-10
          9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

          10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

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      • 12/01/2013 at 3:23 PM

        Why would any man of God tempt God’s children with money to prove anything?

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      • 08/07/2015 at 11:31 PM

        I can only tell you the story of the seven seals and the name of the riders..not. their traditional names like antichrist,war,famine and death..I really mean their name each of them

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    • Rosemary
      05/16/2014 at 7:10 AM

      ICA, Deniseandros, Mike and all who shared comments on the subject of the four horsemen, thank you. I was surprised at how much I do not know, not that I thought I knew that much. Now I am forced to admit that there is even greater need to search out the things of God. May I request your counsel on Ezekiel 37 and its relevance to Israel now? Or any other recommended reading. Thank you for your passion and love for the word of God.
      Shalom!

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      • 05/16/2014 at 8:38 AM

        I “second” that, Rosemary! I too, have learned a lot from ALL the discussions here on Midnight Watcher’s Blogspot!

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    • wandakate
      07/02/2014 at 6:20 PM

      Deniseandros: I don’t think I could have said that any better. You are so correct. The “rapture” belief is certainly “false”. The bible does not support that at all. It’s all made up and is now deemed “the feel good gospel”, b/c we go away feeling good as if nothing is ever going to happen as if we will just be supernaturally whisked away into the clouds. The scripture says we will be tried, tested, and suffer horribly before the coming day of the LORD. JESUS never asked the FATHER GOD to remove us but to protect us from the evil one. Our faith will certainly be tested just as you said here in your comment.
      Easter, Halloween, and Christmas are all “PAGAN” holidays. None of them have anything to do with JESUS CHRIST. He didn’t die on a Friday, he was not born on Dec. 25th, and Halloween is “Satan’s holiday”. We are so deceived it’s pitiful. The angels are weeping, and GOD must be very disappointed in “his church”. We rise for the good Friday service when he didn’t die on Friday, and we say JESUS is the reason for the season at the Christmas holiday, and yet it has nothing whatsoever to do with JESUS. I, for one, am glad you have discovered the truth and would love to sit and have a conversation with you and all who believe as you do. Congratulations, you must be a child of GOD or you would not know what you know. Comments are welcome…

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      • 07/02/2014 at 11:49 PM

        Hi Wandakate,

        Thank you for your kind words. If we endure to the end, we will meet, either under the altar or at the Wedding Feast.

        I like to share Isaiah 14:1, The Lord shall have compassion on Jacob; and will once again choose Israel, and will settle them in their own land. And strangers shall be joined to them, and they will cleave to the House of Jacob.

        Sadly, most Christians still believe that Yeshua started a new religion, instead of recognizing that biblical Christianity was a sect of Judaism that believed in Yeshua and lived by the Torah.

        At this very moment Isaiah 14:1, is being fulfilled. Yeshua is gathering His “last days,” church, comprised of both Jew and Gentile into one flock, with one Shepherd, as joint heirs to the promises of GOD, and equal members of the Commonwealth of Israel.

        I am reading a book called Restoration by D. Thomas Lancaster. I’d like to share a paragraph with you.

        “The Jewish people have lived in exile since the age of the Apostles. So has the Gospel.
        Like the Jewish people, the Gospel began in the land of Israel. Like the Jewish people, the Gospel spread out to every nation during times of great persecution. Like the Jewish people, the Gospel now resides among the nations of the Diaspora.”

        It is as if the Gospel has been in exile with the Jews, and now that the exile is coming to an end, we are both, Jew and Gentile, returning to GOD, to His very Jewish Son, and to the Jewish Gospel. So in some ways, we are all returning home. The long exile is coming to an end. Like Paul, the scales are falling from off of Jewish eyes, and off of the eyes of some Gentiles as well.

        These are the prophetic years. Once again this earth is about to be visited by the divine, and we have been chosen to live at this very hour. “We are a chosen generation.”
        Persecution is all but guaranteed, and we are to count it as a blessing.

        May you be richly blessed my sister! Keep your lamp filled and your wick trimmed, we have a wedding to attend.

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    • wandakate
      07/12/2014 at 9:37 PM

      DENISE ANDROS: Hey, Wandakate here. We will go through most of the tribulation. there is no escape route, no secret rapture and those who believe it have been deceived. Persecution is all but guaranteed as you say. JESUS prayed to the FATHER and asked him to protect the souls (people) that belonged to him but not to remove them from the earth. We won’t be going anywhere as we will suffer under the reign of the antichrist.
      The wrath of Satan is the seal and trumpet judgments then JESUS will come in the clouds of heaven with his multitude of heavenly angels (not saints that have died) and the graves will open and the ones that believe who are alive will join them in the air and they will rise up and meet Him (JESUS) in the clouds and forever be with Him.
      Then after the church has been removed that is when GOD will send the wrath of GOD on all those who refused to know the truth so that they could be saved. They would not believe, they did not give up their evil ways and the cursed GOD, they will suffer through all 7 of the last judgments to come which will be those bowl/vial judgments.

      Studied this since 1999 and that is what GOD has revealed to me, the truth of the word. Some are called out as prophets and watchmen and apostles. We are here to tell them the truth but I find that “most” people don’t want the truth. They are scared, they think they won’t be here for the Antichrist and the mark and they won’t listen, they are deceived, programmed and brainwashed by Satan’s lies.

      I have e-mail if you want to mail comments directly that don’t get posted here that is fine. wkr2014hilly2014@gmail.com.

      You are also correct about the Jews and the Gentiles becoming ‘one new man”. We were grafted in and are joining them with the promises of GOD. We must become one and the same. That was the LORD’s plan, was it not?
      You also mentioned that people don’t honor the Sabbath Day…Do you?
      Wandakate

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  6. Janine
    05/03/2013 at 12:38 AM

    ICA, I have been following your blog ON A DAILY BASIS for quite some time. I must say, THIS IS AN AMAZING POST! Quite possibly, your best EVER! In order for “he who has ears to hear, let him hear”, it requires Watchmen like you and Jack Smith (Islam – The Cloak of Antichrist), Joels Trumpet, and Walid Shoebat to “share” what you interpret. For if “he” has ears to hear, he can’t possibly miss the parallels. Thank you for all you do, and may God bless you as you continue to open people’s eyes and ears!

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    • 05/04/2013 at 12:22 AM

      I have read all of their books and they are all awesome.
      I believe that the book of Daniel is being unsealed in our day. I also think that the Book of Daniel is the key that unlocks Revelation, they work in tandem. To see prophecy being fulfilled; What a time to be alive!

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  7. 05/03/2013 at 1:58 AM

    Amen, and while you’re at it, take a look at the 5th and 6th Trumpets and tell me what you see?

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  8. ICA
    05/03/2013 at 11:11 AM

    In the past, while I had generally leaned towards the position that the First Trumpet would begin during the Fifth Seal and could be blown at any moment, additional studies have lead me to believe that it is entirely possible that some trumpets have already been blown, including the Fifth Trumpet where we read about the “locusts” of Revelation 9. Seeing through a glass darkly it is often difficult to ascertain the meaning of some of Revelation’s symbolism, but I think it’s wise to be open to more than one possibility, and one of those possibilities is that these “demon locusts” do in fact refer to Islam. Some believe it describes the spread of Islam that we have witnessed starting nearly 1400 years ago. In the 12th Century an Islamic scholar named Abul Ala Mawdudi wrote a book calling the spiritual homestead of Islam — modern day Saudi Arabia — the “Abyss of Darkness” to introduce non-Arab readers to Islam. Incidentally, these “locusts” come from the abyss (abyssos) in Revelation 9:2. But does it refer to everything that we have been witnessing starting 1400 years ago up until now? Or could it be what we have starting witnessing recently since the “Arab Spring” and the rise of Islamic fundamentalism across the Muslim world? I’m thinking it’s the latter, but I could be wrong.

    Rev 9:4, “And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.”

    Since the seal of God is spiritual, as is the Mark of the Beast, then Revelation 9:4 could be referring to something symbolic and/or spiritual. These “locusts” are only able to hurt those who “have not the seal of God in their foreheads”, which is directly contrasted with what or who they could NOT hurt — the “grass of the earth” and green things and any tree. This could be referring to the people of God who HAVE the seal of God in their foreheads. (cf Job 5:25, “You shall also know that your descendants shall be many, And your offspring like the grass of the earth“; John 15:4,8, “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself … unless you abide in Me … By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples”; Luke 13:18-19, “Then He said, ‘What is the kingdom of God like? … It is like a mustard seed … and it grew and became a large tree…”). Even the “Israel of God” is likened to a tree (Rom 11:24-26). Since the seal of God and Mark of the Beast are spiritual, I would surmise that the “locusts” are not able to spiritually harm the elect (the ekklesia), that is to say, they cannot deceive them (Matthew 24:24; cf Rev 3:10). It wouldn’t be referring to literal, physical harm because there are many Christians who are being killed for the faith of Jesus, even as we speak (Rev 14:2). But these “locusts” are able to inflict detrimental spiritual harm upon those who do not have the seal of God “in their foreheads” (Rev 16:10), and we see this played out today in full view.

    Interesting isn’t it how we can be described in terms of being “green” if we abide in Christ, yet in an effort to usurp Truth, Islam has once again twisted it and applied even the color to itself.

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    • wandakate
      07/02/2014 at 6:42 PM

      The Mark Of The Beast is not “spiritual”. It’s physical. Scripture says, it will be a “mark” like a tattoo on a person. It will be visible on their forehead or the palm of their right hand. We will know who took the mark and who did not take it. Don’t be deceived.

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    • donal
      11/18/2015 at 10:07 PM

      i agree the locust represent islam 5 month or 150 years calcultion maybe from 632 until 782 when byzantium signed peace treaty with muslim.

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  9. Mike
    05/04/2013 at 7:30 PM

    Thanks for the great post ICA, well supported by Scripture, remarkable insight, history and an interpretation of current events that is quite compelling.

    I read your entire post start to finish. I agree that four horseman are representative of the effects of Islam, even Islam itself.

    Other Scriptures in the Revelation match up well with distinct, particular historical events, like the Rev 12 separate 1260 days, and the times, time and half a time referring to two separate historical events, the two Jewish rebel hold-outs at Masada and 62 years later the Bar Kokhba Revolt, at Bether, Israel, which today is called Bettir, Each revolt lasted three and a half years, each time a remnant of Jews were saved.

    or the Rev 12:3 7 heads being symbolic for the real, consecutive periods of persecution the Jews have endured (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, Rome and Islam) and the 10 horns being symbolic for real, consecutive periods of Roman persecution of Christians under Roman despots?

    But in your first parrallel, you diverge from this trend in Scripture to be specific, to instead be referring to general, early history of Islam, then moving to a view that your second and third parallel take place over Islam’s dark history, and to the fourth parallel which we presumably wouldn’t be in effect because the antichrist (as a distinct individual person) has not been revealed yet. And to the fifth parallel which I am undecided on, since persecution martyrdom was probably more numerous and frequent in Islam’s early history than it is today. I do admit though, that we are, sadly and seemingly helplessly, watching an alarming increase in persecution martyrdom in Muslim majority countries while the world says and does nothing against it.

    Tentatively, I see the text referring to beasts participating in the killing of others as simply a follow-up from the previous horseman (famine and pestilence which always accompany war’s dead). It would be beasts who would be finishing off those who are starving, diseased and unable to defend themselves.

    And how does your first parallel of Matthew 24:5/Rev 6:2 fit in with the timing of the revealing of the identity of the antichrist of 2 Thess 2:3-10 and his accompanying supernaturally powered false miracles? Would the apostasy be those Christians in these Muslim majority countries that capitulate to the Islamists and compromise their faith instead of accepting martyrdom?

    If these events described in the Bible are as Walid and I believe your ascribe to, regional, middle-eastern events, and are happening now, then we in the west are basically watching these events unfold as they happen. That should be distressing for many Christians who would want to help Israel and also other Christians in these Muslim majority countries.

    If it was recognized that what is happening today is actually Biblical end time prophecy being played out in front of the world, then we should expect some kind of national response on the part of genuine Christians, a revival of sorts, a remarkable increase in church attendance or charities giving, an increase in repentance, open professions of faith, personal evangelism… but it seems like while Christians are being murdered in Mali, Nigeria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Egypt and other places, we don’t see revival. We see warm and fuzzy preaching and prosperity gospel ear tickling.

    If the four horseman are riding now, shouldn’t we be seeing in the near future a certain, particular individual performing miraculous signs and false wonders? (2 Thes 2:9-10) leading a mighty army into Israel (Ezek 38) and destroying Saudi Arabia (Rev 17,18)?

    Thoughts?

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  10. Mike
    05/04/2013 at 8:16 PM

    also, one other…If the four horseman are riding today, right now and in the middle east according to other Scriptures that indicate a regional end times conflict, then wouldn’t that imply that the end-times persecution of Christians and Jews of Rev 20:4 (murders, beheadings) would also be regional, not world-wide?

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  11. 05/04/2013 at 8:34 PM

    Thanks ICA great post. I’m re-blogging manually. Thanks again.

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  12. ICA
    05/04/2013 at 11:20 PM

    Mike, “… the fourth parallel which we presumably wouldn’t be in effect because the antichrist (as a distinct individual person) has not been revealed yet.”

    Hi Mike, with respect to Antichrist, we are presented with two main identifying possibilities, namely, either Antichrist is indeed a distinct individual person who will be revealed very soon, or Antichrist is a system (The Islamic faith – the multitude of a man, Mohammed) and not a distinct individual person, though it is sometimes referred to anthropomorphically as a “man” in Scripture much like the Church (The faith of Abraham, the multitude of the Lamb, Messiah) is referred to as “one new man” in Ephesians 2:15. Regardless of who or what Antichrist is, with respect to the Fourth Parallel not being in effect I would contend that yes, it is. If Antichrist is a man, his system must be in place in order for him to be given his power. It does not magically happen overnight. If Antichrist is a system, then it obviously exists today. Either way, it is here today, and we feel the effect that it is already having upon the world and upon the Israel of God.

    Mike, “And to the fifth parallel which I am undecided on, since persecution martyrdom was probably more numerous and frequent in Islam’s early history than it is today.”

    I think we are also faced with two main possibilities here as well regarding the intense persecution that the people of God must suffer, and in my view it harkens back to my reply above with respect to whether or not Antichrist is a man or a system. If Antichrist is a distinct individual man then this would, in my view, give credence to the “futurist” view of the 1260 days / 42 months / times, time and the dividing of time which contends that the “Great Tribulation” is a literal 3.5 year period which could begin when he is “revealed”, and events happening today would be setting the stage for it to happen at any time. (It does not, however, give credence to the futurist premiss asserting that the tribulation itself is still yet to come and will last for 7 years. I do not see any Biblical support for it – see here. We are already in tribulation). If Antichrist is a system, however, then it seems to me that this period of time could be referring to a much longer timeframe, similar to the ‘days of years’ principle given to Ezekiel (Ezek 4:6) and the 1260 days would be more along the lines of an “historicist” understanding of the past 2000 years, which views the Church as being in a perpetual state of tribulation from the time of the disciples until now (which I agree with regardless). Of course, I differ in a few areas with the traditional historicist perspective, but if Antichrist is a system then I see Tribulation as encompassing Islamic history, and Antichrist as the “man of lawlessnes/destruction” will be destroyed at the epiphany of Christ. As for “Great Tribulation”, we could either be starting to experience it now, or it could begin soon, or it could be Islamic history itself. Hindsight will be 20/20.

    Mike, “… how does your first parallel of Matthew 24:5/Rev 6:2 fit in with the timing of the revealing of the identity of the antichrist of 2 Thess 2:3-10 and his accompanying supernaturally powered false miracles?”

    The Apostle Paul was assuring the new Christians of Thessalonica that the gathering (rapture) did not happen yet because the Day of the Lord (which is post-tribulational) had not yet come. In order for the gathering to happen, one of the things that needed to first occur was the “revealing” of the “man of sin/lawness” who was destined for destruction. To be “revealed” doesn’t only mean to be “disclosed” in the sense of being exposed. It also means to be made manifest. If Antichrist (the eschatonic Beast of Revelation) is a system, it is obviously manifest already before us today, and has been for nearly 1400 years (think back to Zechariah 5 and the woman of “wickeness” in the basket – has “the curse [alah] that is going out over the whole land” been made manifest? Absolutely! See the Mark of the Beast article for more).

    As for the accompanying “false” miracles, 2 Thess 2:9 says that they are “by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders” (ESV), but the signs and wonders are not supernatural. They are false. They are lies. The NIV renders the verse to say that they “serve the lie”. They are deceitful, and we see this all throughout Islamic history. Islam teaches, for example, that the Qur’an is itself a “living miracle”. Mohammed’s war victories and his alleged ascent into Heaven during the “Night Journey” on a horse-like creature with the head of a woman and the tail of a peacock are considered “great signs” in Islam and used as “proof” that Mohammed was a prophet. False signs and lying wonders deceived the Islamic world then, and they still deceive the Islamic world in modern times as well. For example, “Allah’s Name Appears On Beef At Nigerian University“. Or “Baby Boy Born In Nigeria ‘Clutching A Copy Of The Holy Quran’ Hailed A ‘Miracle’ By Imams And Islamic Scholars“. Elsewhere, “President of Islamic Health Research Association Claims Reciting the Qur’an Can Cure Incurable Diseases.” Even for evil non-Muslims. Satanic deceptions, falsehoods, lies, yes. Supernatural, no.

    Mike, “Would the apostasy be those Christians in these Muslim majority countries that capitulate to the Islamists and compromise their faith instead of accepting martyrdom?”

    Unfortunately, this has undoubtedly happened throughout Islam’s 1400 year history of conquests and conquering of peoples. Though many refused to convert to Islam and deny Christ, many others would have done just that.

    Mike, “If it was recognized that what is happening today is actually Biblical end time prophecy being played out in front of the world, then we should expect some kind of national response on the part of genuine Christians, a revival of sorts, a remarkable increase in church attendance or charities giving, an increase in repentance, open professions of faith, personal evangelism… but it seems like while Christians are being murdered in Mali, Nigeria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Egypt and other places, we don’t see revival.”

    We don’t see much of a revival in the West (not yet at least), however Christ is revealing himself to countless souls across the Muslim world. Charisma Magazine even issued a story recently titled “Why Revival is Exploding Among Muslims” detailing how “Thousands of Muslims are converting to Christianity after reportedly encountering Jesus in dreams or visions”, describing it a “global phenomenon.” According to Joel Rosenberg, there is a Christian revival in the Muslim world taking place today, from Iran to Sudan to Pakistan and Egypt. “More Muslims are coming to faith in Jesus Christ than at any time in history.” And this is infuriating the Beast. Despite the intensifying persecution of Christians in the Muslim world, it seems like the Spirit of God is being poured out like never before. May His Spirit continue to draw more and more into the Family.

    Mike, “If the four horseman are riding today, right now and in the middle east according to other Scriptures that indicate a regional end times conflict, then wouldn’t that imply that the end-times persecution of Christians and Jews of Rev 20:4 (murders, beheadings) would also be regional, not world-wide?”

    It will be primarily regional, yes. Although the epicenter of Islam is the Middle East, the claws of this Beast will definitely seek to strike out against the Judeo-Christian West as far and as often as it can. How successful it will ultimately be remains to be seen.

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    • wandakate
      07/24/2014 at 9:50 PM

      Is the Antichrist not “one person/an evil man” under the direction of Satan himself? The Bible calls him a man and it says we will receive his mark on the forehead or the palm of the right hand. It says “he” will sit in the temple of GOD and show himself to be god in order to deceive the whole world. The Bible says the whole world will follow the beast (the Antichrist). The scripture calls him also the son of perdition/the man of sin (lawlessness). From all indications it sounds like “one person”, not a system.

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  13. Mike
    05/06/2013 at 1:11 PM

    Hi ICA. Thanks for replying to my questions. I’ve actually considered such an hypothesis, that the middle east is experiencing the great tribulation (while the rest of us observe from a distance), but it was more of an intuition, not something I had worked out through Scripture.

    Your reply to my first question I think has opened up additional problems, at least for me. There seems to be more than sufficient textual evidence for a singular antichrist person, distinct from the spirit of antichrist that was present even at the time of the apostles. For examples, there are the multiple references to “Gog”, who is in wide circles accepted as being “the” antichrist. The text seems to portray Gog as a person, not a system. Gog has a mind that devises an evil plan (38:10) The personal pronoun “you” is used in (39:4), indicating a person. Animals will consume Gog (39:4), (how can animals consume a religious/political system?) Gog will die on an open field (39:5), (how does a religious/political system die on a field?) and be buried in Israel, according to (Ezekiel 39:11).

    Second, there is good, persuasive evidence from the text and history that the first “beast” of Rev 13:1-4 is Islam and the second “beast” of Rev 13:11-15 is “the” AntiChrist/False Prophet. Two separate beasts. One beast is the Islamic belief system while the other is a singular, distinct person of Islamic origin. Rev 13:18 (the number of the beast) would be referring to the second beast, the Islamic AntiChrist/False Prophet. You have made a good case before, for the “multitude of the beast” being the multitude of those who follow the Islamic antichrist.

    And lastly, the “lawless one” of 2 Thess 2 would be the 2nd beast of Rev 13:18, which is also the AntiChrist/False Prophet , who (thank you for the correction!) does what only appears to be supernatural miracles to those who believe and follow him. I’m unaware of how a system can pull off something like that, but history (and even modern day) is filled with examples of individuals (even claiming to be Christian) who have misled others with feats that appear to be miraculous but really are just deception.

    Though I agree there could be a warrant for attributing a system (like Islam) as a man (like the lawless one), and Islam itself perpetuates gross immoralities, injustices and absolutely heinous perversions of God’s truth, I don’t see why Gog, the second beast of Rev 13:11-15 and the “lawless one” of 2 Thess 2 (all different descriptive terms pertaining to the antichrist) have to necessarily be a system. When other Scriptures describe the antichrist unambiguously as a person, making him a system seems to be unnatural to the text. It’s as if interpreting the antichrist as a “system” is being imposed onto the text in order to make it fit a modern day fulfillment of end times prophecy because a person cannot be found to fulfill the biblical, prophetic narrative.

    Anyway, if the antichrist is a singular person and we are observing a regional end times fulfillment, then we should expect to see some persuasive, false-miracle demonstrating, deceptive, boastful, militant individual from a Muslim background unite at least 10 middle eastern countries in a military advance the world has never seen before (of note, there are at least 10 nations hostile to Israel in that region if Muslim African countries are included), seeking Jerusalem for Islam (which there is already efforts being made for that), and for Israel to be attacked from the north (which is happening now with Hezbolloah in Lebanon).

    I wonder what middle-eastern Christians believe on this matter. Do they believe they are living out the Biblical end times from an Islamic antichrist/end times perspectives? What Scriptures do they refer to to describe the spread of sharia law, the increasing holocaust against Christians and spread of destruction, death and spiritual decay wherever there is Islam? I am friends with a missionary and Bible importer working in Sudan. I will inquire with him about this.

    If the antichrist is a “system”, as you suggest could be the case, then I think we have to rethink every other aspect of the Revelation and all other end times passages, including passages relating to the return of Christ which is a very, very serious consideration. If you use the Ezek 4:6 view of days for years, then we are not looking at a soon return of Christ but a very distant return. If distant, and if we (or the middle east) are in the great tribulation, then we can expect this great tribulation to go on for a very long time.
    What we really need is what we don’t have… a first century commentary on the Revelation authored by John or a disciple of John. Until that is ever discovered and published, we will have to pray, continue to test end times interpretations, continue to share the Gospel with others as if it is their last day and wait for unveiling of prophetic truth and for Jesus’ return.
    I agree, the spirit of antichrist is in existence today, just as it was in John’s day (1 John 4:3), which was around 500 years before Muhammad. The spirit of antichrist must not be a distinctly end times spirit then, but a spirit of the ages, one that is particularly directed at denying the authentic Messiahship, unique humanity and Deity of Christ. Muhammad and Islam definitely embody the spirit of antichrist.

    Nice to see your reference to Zechariah 5. That is a little known but very interesting point of evidence supporting the Islamic end times view. The use of the word “alah” (Heb for “curse”) is remarkable, but even the Prophet Isaiah, in describing the condition of the earth at the time leading up to the Second Coming of Messiah, says that
    “the curse [alah] has devoured the earth, And those who dwell in it are desolate” (Isa 24:6).
    The placement of the wicked woman of Zechariah 5 in what used to be southwestern reaches of ancient Babylonia is also remarkable. Ancient southwestern Babylonia is today’s Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam. The pedestal of the woman upon which she sits (a picture of assumed authority) is undoubtedly Mecca, which is also Babylon The Great, from which the idolatry, immorality and the abomination of Islam was birthed (Rev 17:3-5).

    On your reply to my comment on your fifth parallel, we are at an impasse, since it is contingent upon whether the antichrist is a singular person or a system. For now, with respect, I will maintain the view of “the” antichrist being a singular person, since there are other passages that unambiguously support that view.

    I agree with you, that there is no such thing as a 7 year tribulation. It is sad that so many have been deceived by the pre-trib rapture mess and the theological baggage that accompanies it. It has proven to be a source of great financial gain for those who have marketed books or movies based on it, at the expense of sincere but naive Christians.

    In Scripture, the emphasis seems to be on 3.5 years, whether historically fulfilled by the two Jewish revolts, or as a model for what will come to pass in the future. Not directly related, but still interesting, is that God also protected and fed Elijah in the wilderness for three and a half years (1 Kings 17:1-7; 19:3-4). Thus, we have three examples from Scripture or history, indicating a literal 3.5 year time period where at least one person is preserved. This could be a model for a future tribulation period just prior to Jesus return. Or, it may not be a model for a time frame at all, but for lessons to learn from the events that occurred during these past periods of 3.5 years. Again, a first century commentary on the Revelation, authored by John himself or a disciple of John would be immensely helpful.

    On your last comment, there seems to be conflicting stories about what’s going on in the Muslim world. In Muslim controlled countries like Iran, we hear anecdotal stories of a great increase in conversion to Christianity and that the government is desperate to shut down Christianity because it is spreading so fast…. But then there are the other news reports, telling of the alarming trend of the elimination of Christianity from the Muslim Middle East.

    And finally, thank you for addressing my other question, about whether or not end time beheadings and murders of Christians and Jews would be limited to the regional epicenter of end times events, the middle east, or world-wide.
    Most people are not aware or familiar with the use of synechdoche, so they have little reason to interpret end times passages any other way than what a plain reading of the text would suggest. Therefore, most Christians study Bible eschatology believing that there will be a future time of tribulation that would involve the entire world. This view that the end times’ great tribulation is happening now within a middle-eastern regional context and may not have a 7 year or even a 3.5 year termination therefore challenges the assumptions that many Christians are accustomed to.

    The pre-tribbers have the rapture. On your view, what singular biblical, prophetic event would be over-the-top in its persuasiveness in support of the view that the great tribulation is happening now, in the middle east?

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    • Anonymous
      02/10/2015 at 10:39 PM

      Is the antichrist an individual or a system? Antichrist is a person, but what is the beast?

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      • ICA
        02/10/2015 at 11:33 PM

        Anonymous, “what is the beast?”

        The Beast is a kingdom/empire that is a threat to the Israel of God. Scripture uses predatory animals metaphorically to describe this danger (e.g., like a lion, like a bear, like a leopard). The final beast kingdom/empire is Islamic — “dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it” (Dan 7:7). But its days are numbered.

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  14. ICA
    05/06/2013 at 3:00 PM

    Mike, “Though I agree there could be a warrant for attributing a system (like Islam) as a man (like the lawless one), and Islam itself perpetuates gross immoralities, injustices and absolutely heinous perversions of God’s truth, I don’t see why Gog, the second beast of Rev 13:11-15 and the “lawless one” of 2 Thess 2 (all different descriptive terms pertaining to the antichrist) have to necessarily be a system. When other Scriptures describe the antichrist unambiguously as a person, making him a system seems to be unnatural to the text.”

    Hi Mike, with respect to Gog, he sounds like a person, yes, who will be given over to ravenous birds and animals (39:4) and will be buried in Israel (39:11). Having said that, however, let us not ignore the possibility that Ezekiel could also be describing a spiritual entity behind the Antichrist system who exercises authority over this region, similar to how Daniel describes the spiritual forces exercising authority over Iran and Greece as “the prince of Persia (Iran)” and “the prince of Javan (Grecia)” in Daniel 10:20. Ezekiel calls Gog “the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal” in 39:1, which is the region of modern day Turkey. Incidentally, in Revelation 2:13 Jesus says that the region of modern day Turkey (which is where Gog is “the chief prince” of) is “where Satan has his throne”. So it is conceivable that Gog being given over to the animals and buried in the land of Israel could simply be referring to the literal destruction of the physical armies he (Satan?) brings against Israel. Even the casting down of Satan is described using physical terms whereby he is “brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit” (Isa 14:15), even though Satan is non-corporeal. There is much more going on behind the curtain of this physical world than meets the eye.

    Although I, too, have generally understood Antichrist in terms of a man, the more I study the more I am opening up to the possibility that Antichrist is a system. I may still lean toward the understanding of a man, but I cannot dismiss nor discount the “system” position.

    As for Revelation 13 and the “second beast”, let’s keep in mind that the beast of Revelation 13 is a kingdom or empire or system, yet is often described as a “him” or “he” in many English translations. However, exegetically or textually speaking, it need not be rendered as a “him” or “he” at all, something that other translations have noted. The natural assumption on the part of many translators would be to first render the Beast as a “him” or “he” because of how it is often described. Having said that, let’s compare the rendering of Revelation 13:11-18 using the KJV, and then with the same portion of Scripture using the ESV:

    Revelation 13:11-18 (KJV): “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.”

    The original Greek need not be read in terms of the beast being a “man”.

    Revelation 13:11-18 (ESV): “Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.”

    If this is the true intent of the original Greek — remember, the original text is inspired, not the translation of the receptor language — then it severely diminishes the requirement that Antichrist be a distinct individual person.

    Mike, “And lastly, the ‘lawless one’ of 2 Thess 2 would be the 2nd beast of Rev 13:18, which is also the AntiChrist/False Prophet , who (thank you for the correction!) does what only appears to be supernatural miracles to those who believe and follow him. I’m unaware of how a system can pull off something like that, but history (and even modern day) is filled with examples of individuals (even claiming to be Christian) who have misled others with feats that appear to be miraculous but really are just deception.”

    Yes, they “appear” to be miraculous signs and wonders, but are not. Try a quick Google search for “Qur’an” and “miracle” and “Islam”, and you will find a wealth of claims of “supernatural miracles” surrounding the Qur’an and Islam’s prophet, Mohammed.

    Mike, “Anyway, if the antichrist is a singular person and we are observing a regional end times fulfillment, then we should expect to see some persuasive, false-miracle demonstrating, deceptive, boastful, militant individual from a Muslim background unite at least 10 middle eastern countries in a military advance the world has never seen before …”

    If he is a man, perhaps. But the Islamic world doesn’t need to see any other “signs” and “miracles” to be convinced that Mohammed is a true prophet and that Islam is the only true religion and that “Allah” is the only true God and that Israel and Christianity must be destroyed. All of those things already exist within Islam itself, thanks to the Qur’an. The Qur’an is what speaks to the Islamic world, and Islamism is what is giving the “Word of Allah” the power to speak and be enforced upon all who can be subjugated by it or otherwise killed if they do not adhere to the dictates of what the Qur’an says in both thought and deed. It is because of Mohammed and the Qur’an that the Islamic world seeks the destruction of Israel, seeks the destruction of Christianity, and seeks to set itself up above and beyond YHWH and His Messiah.

    Mike, “If the antichrist is a ‘system’, as you suggest could be the case, then I think we have to rethink every other aspect of the Revelation and all other end times passages, including passages relating to the return of Christ which is a very, very serious consideration. If you use the Ezek 4:6 view of days for years, then we are not looking at a soon return of Christ but a very distant return. If distant, and if we (or the middle east) are in the great tribulation, then we can expect this great tribulation to go on for a very long time.”

    Not necessarily. Islam has been in existence for nearly 1400 years. Daniel’s prophecies noted that at the end of 1335 days that the end would come. If Daniel’s timeline should be understood as Days of Years, then at what point did they begin? It would suggest that they began fairly early in Islamic history, perhaps as early as the construction of the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount.

    Mike, “In Muslim controlled countries like Iran, we hear anecdotal stories of a great increase in conversion to Christianity and that the government is desperate to shut down Christianity because it is spreading so fast…. But then there are the other news reports, telling of the alarming trend of the elimination of Christianity from the Muslim Middle East.”

    And I think that this is what we will continue to see up until the Return of Christ. As long as the Spirit of the Lord is poured out, people will come to Christ, and Satan will seek to destroy as many as he can before his end comes. And he knows his end is coming.

    Mike, “The pre-tribbers have the rapture. On your view, what singular biblical, prophetic event would be over-the-top in its persuasiveness in support of the view that the great tribulation is happening now, in the middle east?”

    Seems like it’s already starting, doesn’t it. It may not be one singular event, but a sequence of them. And with the Arab Spring and the rise of Islamic fundamentalism, that sequence is already beginning to happen. But if I had to pick one singular event, it would — if Antichrist is a man — have to be this. Otherwise, we must continue to watch and make every effort to discern the times in which we are living … and dying.

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    • donal
      11/18/2015 at 9:43 PM

      REVELATION 13 by each verse

      1. Beast appeared (look daniel 7 4th beast), this is symbol of islam/allah as whole
      2. resembled of lion, bear and leopard only islam ever conquer 3 beast territory and it is HISTORICAL FACT you will never seen rome map reach persian.
      3. one head wounded but heal, it is the first fitna when muawiyah fight against ali which cost many jihadist troops but finally muawiyah wins and his umayah caliphate conquer from spain to persia
      4. who can fight the beast? islam is so powerfull under rashidun and umayah and most of her conquest last until now (while rome suffer many defeats, split even lost its territory) men worship islam as religion not rome
      5. 42 month represent power of new system calliphate that replce blood related from 660 (muawiyah gain most IC territory) until 1920 (end of WW1, first meeting of league of nation held in january, fall of ottoman empire)
      6. islam insult god and his dwelling place, islam called jesus as man, replace true israel god with pagan deity and build mosque in jerusalem salomn temple
      7. islam fight against jew and christian even defeating christian byzantium empire and also islam/allah spread throughout the world.
      8 there are 1.5 B muslim now from all over the world
      9/10. islam spread her teaching with sword (war)

      11. islam claimed to believe prophet isa/jesus believe in all prophet and their book of torah and sabur/psalm (look like a lamb) but insult him by reject jesus divinity, claim all prophet were muslim and claimed bible is a fake (speak like dragon). the beast is early jihadist(when they are still in small number then gaining more follower), two horns represent rashidun and umayah caliphate

      12. rashidun and umayah are moslim and they forced people to follow islam

      13-15. muslim always claim mohamed split the moon and it is known they respect /using demonic jinn (genie) even dark magic and claimed thats all from allah almighty. they will kill those who insult islam. in war islam bring cannon which unknown to christian that weapon can cause explosion (fire from heaven)

      16-18 under rashidun and umayah caliphate islam expand its territory with war/sword they commit forced religious convertion with death penalty or paying high taxes (jizyah) so non converter will become very poor (unable to buy/sell – rev 13:16).
      666 beast – triscore
      1. it is a mark, those who embrace islam will receive mark in head (belief the idea of pagan deity) and work in way of islam (hand mark).
      2.it is a number , the mark of the beast 666 which greece numerical known as tri score and the number is allah
      3 it is a name, a converter/mualaf must said syahadat word which mention name of beast/allah (rev 13:17) .
      4. it is man, name allah is a name for male deity for female is al lat just like christiano for male and christiana for female

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  15. Mike
    05/06/2013 at 7:21 PM

    Hi ICA, thanks again for your researched and cordial reply. I won’t have much of a reply here, since we have discussed a wide range of issues that remain seemingly unambiguous. There is much to consider and continue to research. It’s good to flesh out some of the challenges or difficulties of a particular view, and I want you to know that I am skeptical out of obedience to the word of God, to examine all things carefully, holding fast to what is good (1 Thess 5:21) and to test the spirits, see if they are of God (1 Jn 4:1). I am convinced of the Islamic origins of the antichrist, but will remain skeptical about the antichrist being a system, for now. I will retain my earlier interpretation of the two beasts of Rev 13, the first beast being Islam, the second being a singular person of Islamic origin.

    Your reply showing the different usage from the KJV and the ESV was interesting, but…a man is also an “it”, a thing, in addition to a person, so I think that is not enough to convince me on that score.

    I agree with you, and Joel Richardson’s view that Rosh, Mesech and Tubal is modern day Turkey, which is both the location where “satan has his throne” (per Rev 2:13) also the location of all seven of the churches of the Revelation. It is no surprise that satan would be attracted to a location he could be so influential, the place where the churches of the Revelation were located.

    It pains my heart to know that we are discussing in such a casual way, the possible Revelation martyrdoms of others for the same Christian faith that we claim to have. To think, many of us complain about what the church decorations look like or cost, or perhaps have a spat with a fellow pew-warmer over a parking space. Perhaps the most persecution or challenge to many of our faith in Christ will be a snide comment over a necklace with a cross, or a bumper sticker with a fish on it.

    From a distance, we may be getting a glimpse of what only John the Revelator had a clear vision of. We remain at a distance, seemingly unable to come to their aid. Every email update you send out reporting persecution deaths, dismemberments, rapes and other heinous atrocities against Christians and Jews should pierce us to our very core. There is something seriously wrong with anyone who claims to be a Christian but is indifferent to the sufferings of our brothers and sisters in Muslim majority locations who in the words of Jesus, endure to the end.

    On your reply, you said here “If he is a man, perhaps. But the Islamic world doesn’t need to see any other “signs” and “miracles” to be convinced that Mohammed is a true prophet and that Islam is the only true religion and that “Allah” is the only true God. ”

    From an Islamic end times perspective, I wonder if those false signs and wonders of 2 Thess 2 are meant to win over non-Muslims, or to keep Muslims in Islam? I mean, what Christian in Egypt, or Iran or Pakistan is going to witness (or experience) Islamic persecution rape, pillaging and murder of relatives by Islamists and then believe a story about Muhammad performing a miracle?

    What Jew in Israel is going to abandon her/his Jewish faith to believe the Qur’an is itself a “living miracle”, or that Mohammed ascended into Heaven during the “Night Journey” on a horse-like creature with the head of a woman and the tail of a peacock?

    These seem like the kind of lies that would keep a Muslim muslim. If someone told me that“Allah’s Name Appears On Beef At Nigerian University“. Or “Baby Boy Born In Nigeria ‘Clutching A Copy Of The Holy Quran’ Hailed A ‘Miracle’ By Imams And Islamic Scholars“, belief would not be first on my mind, but to consider that Muslim to be a deluded.

    2 Thess 2 (NASB) says…

    (2Th 2:9) that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders,

    (2Th 2:10) and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.

    (2Th 2:11) For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,

    (2Th 2:12) in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

    It seems to be that those lying signs and wonders are directed at those who God knows won’t be following Christ, otherwise why would He send upon them a deluding influence so that they would believe lies? This would suggest that from an Islamic end times perspective, the lying signs and wonders of 2 Thess 2 are directed to Muslims, not Christians or Jews. Thoughts?

    Well I have spoken enough. I will wait for what I know will be an informative, researched and cordial reply…and I thank you for your consideration and patience in enduring my lengthy comments and questions. GOD bless you and your essential ministry here.

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  16. ICA
    05/07/2013 at 12:08 PM

    Mike, “I want you to know that I am skeptical out of obedience to the word of God, to examine all things carefully, holding fast to what is good (1 Thess 5:21) and to test the spirits, see if they are of God (1 Jn 4:1).”

    I wouldn’t expect anything less my friend! That exhortation is there for a reason, and it is good to follow it. More of us in the Church need to do precisely that.

    Mike, “Your reply showing the different usage from the KJV and the ESV was interesting, but…a man is also an ‘it’, a thing, in addition to a person”

    True, but so is a system. Having said that, however, I do find it interesting that the Greek text does not refer to the second Beast as a man specifically, but rather in terms of being itself a beast, and one that is directly linked somehow to the first Beast before it. If the first Beast before it is not a man, as we both agree, and if there is nothing in the text necessitating that the second Beast be a man, then it weakens the premiss that many have always held, namely, that the second Beast is a man. The only item I see in all of Revelation 13 that could possibly somehow link the second Beast with a distinct individual person is Revelation 13:18, which speaks about the “arithmos” (number) of the Beast, “for it is the ‘arithmos’ of a man [anthrōpos].” As I have noted elsewhere, exegetically and hermeneutically, the “number” (arithmos) of the Beast does not necessitate the use of mathematics or gammatria to “reckon” what it is, as many have often assumed. The reason for this is simple. The word “arithmos” is used a total of 18 times in the New Testament, and aside from Revelation 5:11 when John is referring to the number of angels around the throne of God, every other time “arithmos” is used it is always referring to a group of people. This therefore suggests that the understanding intended by John is again referring us to a specific group of people, as in “the multitude of the beast: for it is the multitude of a man.” But what man would that be and who are the people associated with him?

    First, there is absolutely nothing in the text telling us that the man who John was referring to must be someone alive at that specific time of the end, another assumption often espoused by many. Second, the Greek word “chi-xi-stigma” — which is often translated as “666” — is nearly identical to the Arabic Bismallah, which means “In The Name Of Allah”. Thirdly, of significance is the fact that in order to convert to “Allah’s religion” one must recite the Islamic creed, called the Shahada, by declaring that “There is no god but Allah, and MOHAMMED is his messenger.” Without Christ, there can be no Christianity. Likewise, without Mohammed, there can be no Islam. Thus, if one does not acknowledge the man Mohammed, they cannot become a Muslim and will not be counted as part of the people of Islam — the Ummah. In this light, it therefore only stands to reason that the number (multitude) of the second Beast, which is the number of a man, is not referring to an eschatonic Antichrist, but rather to Mohammed — the founder and (false) prophet of Islam — whose teachings even today, and in increasing measure, continues to force all those under Islamic rule to worship Allah — the god of Islam — who should otherwise be killed if they refuse. This is the system that is now in place is the Islamic world — worship Allah, or die.

    Mike, “It pains my heart to know that we are discussing in such a casual way, the possible Revelation martyrdoms of others for the same Christian faith that we claim to have… From a distance, we may be getting a glimpse of what only John the Revelator had a clear vision of. We remain at a distance, seemingly unable to come to their aid. Every email update you send out reporting persecution deaths, dismemberments, rapes and other heinous atrocities against Christians and Jews should pierce us to our very core. There is something seriously wrong with anyone who claims to be a Christian but is indifferent to the sufferings of our brothers and sisters in Muslim majority locations who in the words of Jesus, endure to the end.”

    Indeed. It seems like the Church in the West needs its eyes opened, and quickly. It will take people like you and I to get the word out as best we can. If we can’t get the attention of the rest of the Body, perhaps God will.

    Mike, “From an Islamic end times perspective, I wonder if those false signs and wonders of 2 Thess 2 are meant to win over non-Muslims, or to keep Muslims in Islam? I mean, what Christian in Egypt, or Iran or Pakistan is going to witness (or experience) Islamic persecution rape, pillaging and murder of relatives by Islamists and then believe a story about Muhammad performing a miracle?”

    To keep Muslims in Islam, not because God is forcing them against their free will, but rather because it was their will to reject Truth and to believe the lie, and He knows this. The fact that there are Muslims who are rejecting Islam and coming to Christ suggests that Paul’s focus here was for a certain group of people specifically: those who refuse to repent, who refuse the Truth and instead choose to believe the lie.

    Revelation 13:8 says that “all inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast — all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life”. This seems to be saying that literally everyone on the planet will worship the Beast at first glance, but John then states that it is only those “whose names are not written in the Book of Life”. John directs us to an understanding that it will not be literally all that dwell upon the earth that will worship the Beast, but rather, a certain group only. This should also be quite obvious to us when considering the undeniable fact that a great multitude “which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues” will come out of the Great Tribulation (Rev 7:9,14). If they come out of the Great Tribulation, they had to be in it, and while they were in it they did not worship the Beast.

    Rev 17:8 says the same thing as well, “The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world …”. So, again, it will not be everyone on the earth that worships the Beast, but rather only those whose names are not written in the Book of Life. Why are their names not written in the Book of Life when John sees them marvel at or worship the Beast? We’ll have to go and take a look at what the Book of Life itself is a bit more closely.

    It is my opinion that the Lamb’s Book of Life has itself existed since the world was spoken into existence, and that in God’s foreknowledge the names of all humanity that would be born after Adam and Eve until the last natural born individual had been placed in the Book of Life since the foundations of the world. Therefore, when someone is born, their name is already in the Book of Life, and they are what we would call “saved” from the Second Death. Thus, if a child dies, we can know in our heart of hearts that they are in the loving presence of the Father, and not separated from Him for all eternity.

    Revelation 20:15 shows us in no uncertain terms, however, that “whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” If we are saved from the judgment of God at birth and our names are in the Book of Life, how is it that names have been removed according to Rev 20:15? I believe that the answer is simple, and the individuals who are having their names removed are those who have willfully and continually resisted the Spirit of God (Matt 12:31) which convicts them of sin and draws them to Christ (John 16:8-11). It is those who have refused to have a relationship with YHWH the One True God of Israel through Messiah Yeshua. This is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, what is called the “unpardonable sin”.

    We never read anywhere in Scripture about names being added to the Book of Life. We only read about names being removed from the Book of Life completely. Christ has promised us in His Word that all those “who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.” (Rev 3:5). If this verse is true — which it is — then the inverse is also true: He who does not overcome will have his name blotted out of the Book of Life, and Christ will not confess their name before the Father and before His angels. I believe that a name will remain in the Book of Life up until death, and it is at the time of death that the determination is made as to whether the name remains, or is blotted out. (The thief on the cross next to Jesus barely made it! He died before Pentecost and before Christ’s resurrection, but was with Jesus in Paradise that very same day – cf. Luke 23:43).

    Back to the original point, there seems to be one exception to this rule. There is one specific group that Scripture identifies as alive on the earth, whose names are not written in the Book of Life. It is during the time in which John sees them marvel at and worship the Beast, and I believe that this is likely because they have received the “Mark of the Beast”. Like Antichrist, whether it be a man or a system, the consequence is that they are now also doomed to destruction and to suffer the second death because to receive the Mark of the Beast “is a clear indication of complete rejection of Jesus Christ; it demonstrates that the possessor of the mark has reached such a place or condition of hardness that it precludes repentance or faith in Christ. Receiving the mark of the beast, then, terminates one’s chance to receive Jesus Christ. It is equivalent to death for Tribulation people. It is proof they will never receive Jesus Christ, and God knows this absolutely.” [http://bible.org/seriespage/revelation-appendix-6-book-life]. Again, the issue is not those who can and will repent, but rather with those who refuse to repent.

    Evidence of this is brought to light when we understand that the trumpet/bowl judgments of Revelation (which are cause and effect – the same events, different perspectives being two sides of the same coin) are upon this very same group specifically (Rev 9:4 – those who “have not the seal of God”; 16:2 – “upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image”; 16:6 – those who have “shed the blood of saints and prophets”; 16:10 – “upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness”), yet despite these judgments all of them refuse to repent (Rev 9:20-21). I believe these are they who are spoken of in 2 Thess 2:9-12:

    2 Thess 2:9-12, “The coming of the [lawless one] is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive [dechomai – embrace, believe] the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

    Rev 17:8, “The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world …”

    Mike, “It seems to be that those lying signs and wonders are directed at those who God knows won’t be following Christ, otherwise why would He send upon them a deluding influence so that they would believe lies?”

    Bingo.

    God bless …

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    • 05/07/2013 at 5:49 PM

      Just a quick question; If the beast is a system, then how is an image of the Beast made, and made to worship, if it is a system and not a man? Secondly, if it is a man then it would make more sense , in that Jesus came as a man, who has a kingdom. Satan always copies GOD, wanting to be worshiped, as GOD.

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      • Mike
        05/07/2013 at 6:39 PM

        Denise, I do not know what the “image” of the beast is. It would be consistent for satan to mimmick what God does, and then pervert it with untruth. So the “image” of the beast could be a perversion of how man was created in the image of the character of God. This would be consistent with Islam, since it in so many ways has perverted what God means for good, including human nature and its proclivity to seek a relationship with our Creator.

        I think you make a valid assumption, that “the” antichrist being a person would at least be consistent with satan trying to mimic God. God provides a Savior and intermediary, the man Jesus. satan provides a false savior and intermediary, a man who is the a false christ, an antichrist. Jesus, the true Savior is the personal embodiment of truth itself, while satan’s false savior is the personal embodiment of lies and deception. It’s not a positive, Scriptural case, but at least it’s consistent with Scripture.

        Regarding the beast…Opinions vary on this obviously. In Rev 13, there are three entities: The dragon (which is satan), and two beasts. My position is that the first beast is Islam. The second beast is the antichrist who is also the false prophet.

        The beast coming up out of the sea is Islam because it is identified by the “ten horns” of Muhammad’s Companions, his first 10 lieutenants who carried out his orders both before and after his death.

        The “seven heads” is another identifier of Islam, being Muhammad and his first group consisting of Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali, followed by six additional Caliphate periods beginning at the Sunni/Shia divide at the Battle of Karbala 661AD.

        These six Caliphate periods were administered by the following:
        2nd Caliphate Period: The Umayyads 661-749AD
        3rd Caliphate Period: The Abbasids 749-932AD
        4th Caliphate Period: The Buyids 932-1055 in Baghdad and Fatimids 909-1171 in Egypt
        5th Caliphate Period: The Seljuk Turks 1055-1258 in Baghdad and Ayyubid 1169-1260 in Egypt
        6th Caliphate Period: The Mongols 1258 – 1350 in Baghdad and Mamluks 1260-1517 in Egypt
        7th Caliphate Period: Ottomans 1342- until disbanded in 1924

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        Again, note the presence of the diadems, but unlike 12:3 where he is wearing seven, now it is ten. The diadems of Rev 13:1 are not additional historical persecutions of Jews and Christians. They are yet another identifier of Islam. Going back to the list of Caliphate Periods, one only needs to notice that some Caliphate Periods are jointly administered. Counting all the administrative Caliphate Periods together, beginning with Muhammad and his closest supporters, the Rightly Guided Ones (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali) as one administration, plus the other six, then the extra administrations due to the dual-administration of three of the six, and it amounts to ten.

        Note that on his “heads” (referring to the entire Caliphate period of Islam), there are blasphemous names. The Islamic allah has 99 names. One of those names is “Prideful One” among others.

        (Rev 13:3) I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast;

        This is another Islamic identifier. This is referring to the death of Muhammad in 632AD. But the “fatal wound” of the head does not kill the entire body. Islam is wounded, and it is healed with the establishment of increased followers of the fledgling, violent religion. Why would the “whole earth” be amazed and follow after the beast (Islam)? The term “whole earth” is not referring to the entire geographical sphere of the earth. It is a synechdoche, a form of speech that uses terms in a way that literally mean something else.

        It is like saying “The whole world watched the Super Bowl on Sunday”, but it really wasn’t the entire world. It was only the geographical location that carried the Super Bowl on network television. We read something similar in Colossians 1:23, which says,

        “If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister.”

        We know that Paul did not preach to crickets, frogs and polar bears, which would be the ridiculous conclusion we’d have to draw if one read it in a strictly literal sense. However, such statements are never intended to be understood literally. They are synecdochical expressions that use a part for the whole, or the whole for a part. This figure of speech is often found in Scripture, especially when we read about kings and their kingdoms, and the end-of-days leader that many identify as Antichrist will be no different.

        To John the Revelator and in context, the “whole earth” would have been the geographic area of where he was at in the vision. Arabia. Since it is a known historical fact that the whole of Arabia was in awe of the remarkable success of the raiding parties of Muhammad’s first followers after his death, it was through this unrighteous renown that Islam was redeemed from an early death in 632AD. Adding to the rejuvenation of early Islam was the success of the so-called “Ridda Wars”, which were basically war parties who went out seeking apostate Muslims, bringing them back into the religion on threat of execution. Any Muslim who tells you compulsion has never been a part of Islam is either lying or does not know the history of Islam.

        The Second Beast:

        (Rev 13:11) Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke as a dragon.

        This is a direct reference to the anti-christ. Two horns are significant of the strategy the antichrist uses to deceive people. Only a human uses such premeditated strategy. The horns of a lamb suggest he will be gentle or appear vulnerable, or possibly speak gentle, seductive words….words of peace and justice. Incidentally, this is the way Iranian (and Shiite) president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad describes the long awaited, longed for “Twelfth Iman”, or “Al-Mahdi”…the Islamic messiah. A review of the written transcripts of his yearly UN international address is sufficient to confirm this. His video address to Christians can be found on YouTube. The deception is chilling to view.

        Speaking as a dragon suggests he will speak blasphemies, great boasts against the one, true God of Israel and Jesus His Son. The so-called “man of lawlessness” of 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 is the “other horn” of Daniel 7:20-22, 24-25, which some hold are prophet, Islamic identifiers of the end times biblical antichrist.

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        • donal
          11/18/2015 at 9:57 PM

          10 horns :
          1. muhamad
          2 Abu bakr
          3 umar
          4 utman
          5 ali
          6 hasan
          7 husein
          8 khalid ibn al walid
          9 Abu ubaidah
          10 jafar bin abi talib
          daniel 7 4th beast small horn: muawiyah, subdue 3 horns ( ali, hasan, husein). this marking the conflict of sunni vs shiah (one head is wounded but healed)

          muawiyah replaced blood related (to muhamad) leadership (shiah) to whoever qualified as leader (sunni)-ummayah – 8th head. muawiyah gain controlled of most islamic caliphate in 660 and this system last for 1260 years until 1920 (league of nation held first meeting – official end of WW1, fall of ottoman empire)

          10 horns (mohamed and friends) will have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast (islam caliphate) their time only for 1 hour ( a day equal to 1000 years) so one hour equal 41 years. started when mohamed perfecting islam by ascend to heaven (isra mijrad) and received order from allah to pray 5 times a day in year 620 until 661 (death of ali and surrender his 2 sons to muawiyah).

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    • Mike
      05/07/2013 at 6:42 PM

      ICA, You make a good case for your position, and I agree with your presentation of the arithmos, the multitude of the beast. I agree the first and second beast of Rev 13 are associated, but I will hold to my position that they are also separate entities, for now. I think there is good evidence for both of our perspectives. The bottom line is, they both point to the antichrist having an Islamic origin. I trust that as events continue to unfold, either with the view that the Revelation is happening now, or will soon happen, that more prophetic truth will become unsealed for our understanding, for the express purpose of sharing with others and warning others that whether in the middle east or small-town America, judgment is coming and people everywhere need to repent from sin and believe on Jesus while they still can.

      I agree with your unstated but applied Molinist view of middle knowledge in this case, that God in His omniscience knows even before the creation of the world who will be saved and so their names are already written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. The fact that there will names that are blotted out would seem to imply that everyone’s name is written in the Lamb’s Book initially, perhaps due to God’s desire that none perish? (2 Pet 3:9, 1 Tim 2:4).

      However, those who are unrepentant, rejecters of Christ or are otherwise rebellious against the one, true Yahweh God will be the ones whose names are blotted out by their own doing, which God seems to prefer to let play out through our free will choices within our own temporal time frame, not manipulated from His timeless, eternal dimension.

      For those who follow and admire (marvel at) the beast, during the time of Christ’s return, their blotting out would presumably be a response to God’s foreknowledge of them choosing to accept the mark of the beast, and so God just gives them what they want, more belief of a lie. This might just be another way of saying what you already said much better. :)

      Islam notwithstanding, there are many who would fall into that category of rejecting Christ today. However, Islam happens to characterize every feature that defines what is antichist (which is not a passive belief like agnosticism, but an active, hostile rebellion) according to the biblical definition of what is antichrist (found in 1 John 2:22,23, 5:10-12, 1 John 4:2-3 and 2 John 1:7).

      I understand the blasphemy of the Spirit as attributing to satan the glory for a miracle that Jesus performed in the presence of the Pharisees. This is not far from what Islam does in attributing false miracles, false signs and wonders to Muhammad and claiming it is of allah, which as we know, is not the same as the one, true Yahweh God.

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      • ICA
        05/08/2013 at 6:12 PM

        Mike, “I trust that as events continue to unfold, either with the view that the Revelation is happening now, or will soon happen, that more prophetic truth will become unsealed for our understanding, for the express purpose of sharing with others and warning others that whether in the middle east or small-town America, judgment is coming and people everywhere need to repent from sin and believe on Jesus while they still can.”

        Amen.

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        • 05/09/2013 at 2:40 AM

          Soon it will become illegal to share the gospel in America, and in most other places around the globe. The scriptures tell us that a time is coming when there will be a famine, not of bread, but of the hearing of the word of GOD.
          It wouldn’t surprise me if we woke up on day and American and European women were told that they could no longer be allowed out in public without wearing a hijab. The government would tell us that this must be done in order not to offend Muslims, anyone not willing to comply would be arrested.
          It is my belief that wearing a Muslim head covering, would be an act of obeisance to Allah, or at the very least, it would be showing deference to a foreign god. Satan will set traps for us everywhere. It will be like navigating a mine field.

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  17. 05/07/2013 at 4:37 PM

    Great post!! I wrote something a while back that would actually go with this post quite well. If you get a chance check it out. If not, no worries. :) I really did enjoy this post, I love end times stuff!

    http://realityofchrist.me/2013/02/21/christian-antichrist-shockingly-resembles-muslim-savior-aka-mahdi/

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  18. ICA
    05/08/2013 at 1:35 PM

    deniseandros, “Just a quick question; If the beast is a system, then how is an image of the Beast made, and made to worship, if it is a system and not a man?”

    From the standpoint that the second Beast is a system, consider the Church (Ekklesia). Just as the Church of YHWH is conformed to the image (eikōn) of Christ (Christianity – Romans 8:29, 2 Cor 3:18), the Ummah (the “Islamic church” if you will) of Allah, which is a counterfeit of the Church of YHWH, is conformed to the image (eikōn) of Mohammed (Islam – Qur’an Sura 4:171, Sahih Muslim 1:33, Hadith). The image of the Beast could therefore be referring to the Ummah and all things Islamic wherein the “second Beast” (possibly the militant, radicalized system of Islam that we are now witnessing rise up from the Arab Spring) is forcing everyone under its control to submit to and conform to Islam as per the Qur’an. Consider a few recent headlines, for example:

    Nigeria: Terror Leader Calls For Global Jihad Against America, Britain And Israel For The ‘Cause Of Allah Everywhere’

    Islamists Kill At Least 67 to Spread Sharia Law, ‘Whomever We Kill, We Kill Because Allah Says We Should Kill and We Kill for a Reason’

    Kenya: Al-Shabaab Claims Responsibility For Church Attacks, Will Continue To Kill Those Who Do Not Worship Allah

    Morocco: Nation’s Highest Islamic Institute Issues Fatwa Demanding Death Sentence For Christian Converts

    Muslims Pressing For Blasphemy Laws In Europe To Make It A Crime For Anyone Who Insults Islam

    Hundreds Of Thousands Of Muslim Americans Believe Anyone Insulting Mohammed Should Face The Death Penalty

    Christians In Pakistan Told To Convert To Islam Or Leave, ‘Otherwise They Will Face Consequences’

    Islamist Ultimatum To Syrian Christians: Convert To Islam, Leave, Or Die

    Muslim Cleric In Iraq Issues New Fatwa To All Iraqi Christians: Choose Islam Or Be Killed

    Report: Christianity ‘Close To Extinction’ In Middle East, ‘The Most Common Threat To Christians Abroad Is Militant Islam’

    ‘If You Don’t Change Your Religion We’ll Kill You’: Up To 100,000 Christians Forced To Flee Egypt To Escape Islamic Persecution

    Egypt: Islamist Organizations Distribute Leaflets Calling For The Killing Of All Christians Who Will Not Convert To Islam

    Morocco: Muslim Cleric Condemns Violence In Islam’s Name, Is Declared An Apostate And Threatened With Death

    These examples are the tip of the proverbial iceberg. What is it that they are all trying to do? They are attempting to make [poieō – to cause, to construct, to produce] an image [eikōn – likeness] of the first Beast upon the earth [eg. the Islamic Caliphate], to give it the power and influence that it once had, and those who refuse to worship [proskyneō – revere, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead, to do homage or make obeisance] to the image of this Beast should be killed.

    Romans 8:29, “For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.”

    2 Corinthians 3:18, “And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.”

    Qur’an Sura 4:171, “O followers of the Book! [Christians] do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa [Jesus] son of Marium [Mary] is only a messenger of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His messengers, and say not, Three [Trinity]. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one Allah; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.”

    Hadith, Sahih Muslim 1:33, “The Messenger of Allah said: ‘I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah …”

    deniseandros, “Secondly, if it is a man then it would make more sense , in that Jesus came as a man, who has a kingdom. Satan always copies GOD, wanting to be worshiped, as GOD.”

    Satan cannot create, he can only corrupt and has in fact already copied God by usurping the Divine title/office/way of Salvation in claiming that salvation is only found in “Allah and His Messenger” and not in YHWH and His Messiah. And, sure enough, the Ummah of Islam stands against the temple of God — the Church — and does this very thing today, blaspheming the God of our Salvation and boastfully declaring that “Jews and the Christians are enemies of the [Islamic] believers” who are “cursed” because “adhering to Islam is the only path to enter heaven, and escape hellfire”. As mentioned in this article, Islam is Satan’s platform upon which he is attempting to exalt himself and become like the God of Heaven. It is a means to an end.

    As the Prophet Isaiah tells us, Satan has explicitly declared his intention to rise above the stars of God and to become like Him:

    Isaiah 14:12-14, “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation … I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”

    It is no coincidence that this also happens to be the exact description of Antichrist as given to us by the Prophet Daniel. Isaiah exposes Satan’s own corrupted ambitions, to magnify himself above everything that is called god, above everything that is associated with the God of gods, to be like God Himself. And the Ummah of Islam is how he intends to accomplish this. The “stars of God” may even be referring to the people of God, His Ekklesia:

    Deuteronomy 1:8-11, “‘See, I have set the land before you; go in and possess the land which the LORD swore to your fathers–to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob–to give to them and their descendants after them.’ … ’The LORD your God has multiplied you, and here you [are] today, as the stars of heaven in multitude. ’May the LORD God of your fathers make you a thousand times more numerous than you are, and bless you as He has promised you”

    The name of Satan in Isaiah 14:12 (Lucifer) is “heylel,” which means “light-bearer”. The Arabic equivalent of Satan’s name is “hilal,” which means “crescent moon.” Also consider the “Takbir” of Islam, the victory cry of “Allahu Akbar.” What are they saying? It doesn’t mean “God is great” as it is often translated in the West. It actually means “Allah is greater.” If it is Satan’s intention to be like the Most High and to exalt his throne above the stars of God and sit upon the mount of his own congregation, it only stands to reason that Satan will seek to accomplish these things and perform these blasphemies through the religious system to which he has given power and authority — Islam. After all, those who marvel and follow the Beast “worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast” (Rev 13:4), and Satan knows that when they are worshipping “Allah” and the image of the Beast, they are worshipping him. Satan is therefore working to exalt and magnify himself as the Prophet Isaiah described through the religious ideology of Islam that diametrically opposes everything that the Judeo-Christian faith represents and stands for. But although the enemy will try to destroy what God has created, he cannot and will not prevail against the Ekklesia of God. All he can do is create his own corrupted version of God’s elect, to wage war against God’s elect, in an effort to replace God’s elect with one that is created in his own image:

    * Yahweh has the Ekklesia (The congregation of God).
    * Satan has the Ummah (The congregation of Allah).

    * Yahweh’s Ekklesia is “as a bride adorned for her husband” and filled with “the glory of God”.
    * Satan’s Ummah is a harlot “decked with gold and precious stones and pearls” filled with abominations.

    * Yahweh has given the Ekklesia His Word, the Bible.
    * Satan has given the Ummah its corruption, the Qur’an.

    * Yahweh’s Ekklesia is the multitude of the Lamb, whom they follow.
    * Satan’s Ummah is the multitude of a man, the “prophet” Muhammed, whom they follow.

    * Yahweh’s Ekklesia comes out of Great Tribulation.
    * Satan’s Ummah is responsible for it.

    * Yahweh’s Ekklesia receives the seal of God upon their foreheads and are redeemed.
    * Satan’s Ummah receives the Mark of the Beast upon their foreheads and are condemned.

    * Yahweh’s Ekklesia will be lead to springs of living waters.
    * Satan’s Ummah will drink of the wine of the wrath of God.

    To borrow the analogy from the concluding remarks made in the Revelation 13 commentary, the stage has been set. In the “theatre” of Biblical eschatology, it is ready for the final act. All “props” are in position. The “characters” are in full costume. And the world is watching in attendance. Very soon we will witness the final act begin, for through Islam Satan will make his final stand against the Prince of princes.

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    • 05/09/2013 at 12:05 AM

      Thanks ICA and Mike,
      I work overnights so I sleep while you guys get to share in real time, I sleep.
      Scripture is so amazing, GOD is really revealing things to us that were previously sealed.
      I am not sure yet whether the tribulation will be a regional, middle eastern conflict, or more spread out.
      Three things make me think that the tribulation will be more global in scope. First: Looking at Europe, and seeing all of the Muslim uprisings there, and now the spread of violent jihad in America. Two: The fact that scripture says that the whole world will be affected. Third: Islam calls Israel, the little Satan, and America, the great Satan. America is still the largest Christian nation in the world.
      We are told that during the tribulation the jewish remnant will be divinely protected. When that happens Satan gets angry and goes after GOD’s OTHER children; those who keep the commandments and have the testimony of Jesus. That would be Christians.
      The killing of middle eastern Christians is already happening on a daily basis. I think that Israel will soon be attacked, then the spread of jihad against Christians in America will really start to escalate. Somehow, I doubt that American Christians will be escape unscathed, especially with a Muslim in the White House.

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  19. Mike
    05/08/2013 at 6:21 PM

    I think Denise got more than she expected between our two answers! :) She got two slightly different views but what unites them the lines of evidence for the end times antichrist having an Islamic origin.

    The similarities between what Yahweh’s community and the Ummah community of Islam that you posted are remarkable. The similarities between what of God satan tries to mimic does not end there actually. Throughout history, satan has been trying very hard to prevent Jesus from being born, and once born, to prevent His salvation from being known.

    Knowing that there will be a Savior and Lord coming out of the line of Isaac, satan has tried to interfere with the familial line leading to Mary, mother of the Savior Jesus by attempting to corrupt the genetic line just prior to the Flood through demonic sexual unions with human females, resulting in the so-called Nephilim of Genesis 6.

    Then he tried to introduce corrupt, pagan cultures into the blood line leading to Mary through interbreeding with Egyptians, Canaanites, Babylonians…each with its own morally corrupt anti-Yahweh culture. When that did not work, he tried to destroy Israel on numerous occasions through military conquests against Israel, from before Christ’ birth during the desecration by Antiochus to times after Christ’ birth during the reigns of Herod, Titus, Emperor Hadrian and others throughout history.

    Further attempts by satan to disrupt or prevent that Savior’s birth was in his attempt to kill the infant Jesus in the massacre instigated by Herod and described in Matthew 2:16. When that did not work, he tried to silence the Christian testimony of Jesus through 10 seasons of Roman massacres and unspeakable persecutions. Failing to prevent the birth of Jesus, Satan has attempted to corrupt the Gospel message of Christ being Savior and Lord through the early church heresies (Gnosticism, Docetism, Marcionism, among others).

    When that did not work he caused Muhammad to, under demonic inspiration, compose a book called the Qur’an, which mixes truth with a lie. Among other examples of mixing truth with a lie, the Qur’an says that Jesus was born by a virgin by God saying “Be” instead of by a supernaturally fertilized egg… thereby avoiding the prophesied lineage of Isaac to Mary, and inevitably, the Savior Jesus. Even 600 plus years after Jesus’ birth, satan still does not want it publicized that there is any Savior.

    The Qur’an also denies the unique humanity of Christ as well as Christ’s Divinity. In an eleventh hour attempt to deny Christ the power over sin and death, the Qur’an denies Jesus died by crucifixion, which of course implies that there was no resurrection. Satan has not covered his tracks very well. History, and the Qur’an reveals the hostility of satan against Christ, from those whom Christ came (Jews) and those who are in Christ today (Christians).

    From many instances in Scripture and history, we can see that satan seeks for men to worship him as God. To achieve this, he tries to imitate God.

    There is the resurrection of Jesus…and there is the third millennium BC pagan story of Osiris being raised from the dead by Zeus.

    Jesus was the son of the Father and did miracles…Horus was the mythical son of Osiris and according to myth, did miracles.

    Jesus was the Son of God…Hermes was in myth, the son of the Greek god Zeus.

    Likewise, Jesus was the Son of God, performed miracles and is the Savior…and Dionysus was in myth the son of Zeus, performed miracles and was considered a kind of savior.

    Jesus was God in flesh….and Mithra was in myth, the flesh and blood of the originally Persian, Mithraic god.

    There are true apostles of Jesus Christ….and there are false apostles of Jesus Christ (2 Cor 11:13-15).

    There is the holy trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost…and there is the unholy trinity of satan, the beast and the anti-christ/false prophet.

    Jesus performed miracles with power and prophesied…and the anti-christ will perform miracles with unholy power and prophesy falsely (2 Thess 2:9).

    God took a place of pre-eminence in the Holy of Holies of the Temple…and the anti-christ will seat himself in assumed authority as God in the (a) Temple (2 Thess 2:4).

    Jesus was resurrected…and the beast’s wound is healed and it is resurrected to life (Rev 13:3-4).

    In the same manner that God has a special land and a special city (The Promised Land, and Jerusalem), the geographical origin and historical center of both Judaism and Christianity,

    Satan also has a geographic area and a city; Babylon is the geographic kingdom of the mixture of many false gods, an area that included the northern half of Saudi Arabia…the origin of Islam. Mecca is the historical origin and spiritually adulterous Islamic capital city.

    Jesus upon His return will be wearing diadems (Rev 19:12) while satan also wears diadems (Rev 12:3) and the beast of (Rev 13:1) will be wearing diadems.

    God has a new city that comes down out of heaven, the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:2). Today, many Islamists are claiming Jerusalem to be an Islamic city, that it must be “freed” and “liberated” from Israel.

    God has the identifying mark of a seal upon the foreheads of those who are His (Rev 9:4, Deuteronomy 6:7-8)…and those who follow satan have an identifying mark on their forehead and right hand (Rev 13:16).

    Similarly, the spiritual harlot (whore) of Revelation 17:5 also has a name on her forehead. Is this coincidence? I think not. It is no great leap to associate the name of the beast of (Rev 14:11) with the name of the whore of Rev 17: 5. It is a multitude of a name (Rev 13:17) that has its origin in Saudi Arabian capital of Mecca. Babylon is the name. Islam is what the name describes.

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    • 05/08/2013 at 9:45 PM

      Hey Mike and ICA! BOTH of you have posted some very useful information for everyone to pay attention to and be “vigilante” as Jesus taught to do.

      Your “posts” make it very clear that “we” ALL must be vigilante as the “Beast” is already among us, and probable…coming in more forms than we “think!”

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  20. ICA
    05/09/2013 at 11:55 AM

    deniseandros, “The fact that scripture says that the whole world will be affected.”

    In each and every single one of the verses of Scripture that refers to Antichrist/Beast and the whole earth or world, the word for “earth” or “world” is the Greek word “ge”, which will often be referring to “a country, land enclosed within fixed boundaries, a tract of land, territory, region”. Old Testament prophets also infer a geographical limitation of the eschatonic Beast with some very specific details of their own, describing them in terms of being the “surrounding peoples” (Zechariah 12:2), or “surrounding nations” (Joel 3:11-12, Zechariah 14:14) or “neighbors” (Ezekiel 28:24-26). When Christ returns in power and great glory Scripture lists the nations that He fights against by name, and every nation that is identified in Scripture are today Islamic nations.

    deniseandros, “I am not sure yet whether the tribulation will be a regional, middle eastern conflict, or more spread out.”

    In the article titled “Antichrist: Leader of a One-World Government?” it was noted that although the “seat of the Beast” (cf Rev 13:2, 16:10) will be primarily regional, Antichrist’s influence over his people will definitely be felt globally and involves one common denominator that we see today in all nations that surround Israel: Islam. We are even seeing its influence both inside and outside of politics today. Consider, for instance, that just a couple of years ago an American-born Al Qaeda leader publicly called upon Muslims in America to start buying guns and begin killing non-Muslim Americans. I’ve believed for some time now that when this does come it will, with the right “triggering event”, not be isolated. As we all know, there are millions upon millions of Muslims living in Western nations today. If an event were to occur in the world that would be eschatologically pivotal for Muslims this would be sure to awaken any radical elements within the Muslim population, regardless of where they live, radicalizing some of those who were previously considered “moderate” by friends and neighbors. We’d be looking at hundreds of thousands of potential jihadists waging an all-out campaign of terror against their local non-Muslim infidels.

    The Fort Hood killer, a Muslim US Army Major, waged his own jihad and took 13 lives. This was just one man with a gun. The Tsarnaev brothers killed 3 and wounded hundreds in Boston with just two “pressure-cooker” bombs. Imagine what tens or hundreds of thousands throughout the country wielding guns and knives and anything else they could use to maim and kill could do with similar intent. Though the “seat of the Beast” is regional, its effect will certainly be felt globally. The extent to which it will be felt, however, remains to be seen.

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    • 05/10/2013 at 12:28 AM

      Thanks ICA for the response,
      If the colossus in Daniel is a representation of the times of the Gentiles, and the two legs represent Rome, then couldn’t the right leg be the Western nations, and the left leg be the revived Islamic Caliphate?
      I know that the Bible is an Israel centric book, but, I see so many things happening today that seem to be prophetic. I mean, there are some days that I barely recognize the planet that I’m on.
      I see a president who kills at will, who hates Israel, hates Christians, and does everything he can to destroy America, while at the same time embraces Islam, and enriches them with America’s treasure. Obama fits the description of the Antichrist. Revelation 9:11, And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. Obama sure feels like that angel. However, I have thought for many years that that angel was Allah. Could Obama be Allah?

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  21. ICA
    05/10/2013 at 11:35 AM

    deniseandros, “If the colossus in Daniel is a representation of the times of the Gentiles, and the two legs represent Rome, then couldn’t the right leg be the Western nations, and the left leg be the revived Islamic Caliphate?”

    What would have then been the geographical location of the extended Roman Empire is today now under Islamic dominion, and Islam is encroaching Westward. For all intents and purposes, the “Roman Empire” has no defined role in the eschaton that I can see (we are now at the feet of iron mixed with clay – the word for “mixed” is the Aramaic word “arab” — from whence Islam arose — and is divided into Sunni and Shia, cf. Dan 2:41), so only Israel and the surrounding Islamic nations are in view here.

    deniseandros, “Revelation 9:11, And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. Obama sure feels like that angel. However, I have thought for many years that that angel was Allah. Could Obama be Allah?”

    No. Obama is nothing more than a man. As much as you or I may dislike his leadership (or lack thereof), his policies, and his complacent attitude toward Islam and his accommodating stance toward the “Religion of [Anything But] Peace” in every nook and cranny of his anti-Christian administration, God allowed him to be elected for a purpose.

    Daniel 2:21, 4:17b, “He changes times and seasons; he sets up kings and deposes them. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning … the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of men.”

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  22. Mike
    05/13/2013 at 9:15 PM

    ICA, I inquired with the missionary and Bible importer in Sudan. I asked him if the greatly persecuted Sudanese Christians believe they are in the end times as described in the Revelation. He did not answer my question directly, but alluded to a common thread of belief among Sudanese Christian that Islam is antichrist in the general sense. He did not elaborate further on what Sudanese Christians believe.

    He then shared, in more detail, his view, called the “Reformed” position, Evidently, this position entails the Papacy and Islam as being two arms of anti-Christ. He says Martin Luther, John Calvin, all the Reformers, Jonathan Edwards, many of the leading lights of the Puritan and Great Evangelical Awakening recognized that as Catholicism had taken over the Western leg and Islam the Eastern leg of the Roman Empire, the vision of the statue in Daniel apply to both Catholicism and Islam. They taught that Muhammad was the little horn of anti-Christ.

    This view invites some uncomfortable questions for those who adhere to it. For example, what in the text specifically demands that one leg be the Papacy and the other Islam? How does one know that this view wasn’t the events of that day being imposed onto the Scripture by the Reformers of that day? Does the Papacy fulfill all the criteria for being antichrist of 1 and 2 John? Does it behead people according to Rev 20:4?

    In any case, I have not found anything that suggests that Christians in persecuted countries believe that this is the end times of the Revelation, but if they did, I would not be surprised. The Thessalonians believed they were in the end times. Paul corrected them. The Reformers believed the events of their day pointed to the end times. History proved them wrong.

    What can you provide that is more convincing than what they had, to support the view that the events of the Revelation are occurring now? Any particular, singular event or thing or person that must, necessarily be an event, thing or person of the Revelation?

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    • 05/13/2013 at 11:50 PM

      Hi Mike!

      Jesus said that one of the signs of the End Times would be that the “word of the Lord” would be in every corner of the World…until recent times…that was NOT possible. However, with the advent of satellites, it IS now TRUE! Especially now with the Internet! Jesus said this would mark the beginning of the End Times. He went on to say that when “…we would see WONDERS in the Heavens…” that His time would be near. This past year, we have seen a “Triangle in the Sun” among “other” WONDERS!!!

      This is straight-out-of the mouth of Jesus. These things have happened! Therefore, as far as I am concerned…WE ARE IN THE END TIMES!

      AND, the time of the return of Jesus Christ…IS SOON!

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    • 05/14/2013 at 9:18 AM

      Isn’t one of the qualifiers that marks this time as unique, is that it will be a time of tribulation, such as the world has never seen, and will never see again? Does it mean numbers, scope, wickedness, or intensity?

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  23. ICA
    05/13/2013 at 11:11 PM

    Mike, “How does one know that this view wasn’t the events of that day being imposed onto the Scripture by the Reformers of that day?”

    That’s exactly what it was, but it was not just Roman Catholics killing Protestants. It was also Protestants killing Roman Catholics. If the Roman Catholics were called Antichrist/The Beast by Protestants because of the way Protestants were mistreated, what does that in turn make the Protestants who sanctioned and called for scores of Roman Catholics to be executed? The Reformed position is Deformed. It may have sounded plausibe during its day, but is now a very tenuous position to take.

    Mike, “What can you provide that is more convincing than what they had, to support the view that the events of the Revelation are occurring now? Any particular, singular event or thing or person that must, necessarily be an event, thing or person of the Revelation?”

    The identity of the Fourth Horseman, coupled with the “Mark of the Beast – What Your Church May Not Be Telling You” and “Antichrist: Leader Of A One-World Goverment?” articles should leave litttle doubt about where we are today in the eschaton. If the Book of Revelation speaks about events that not only happen throughout history but also in the eschaton of time — the time in which we are living today — for what conceivable reason should Roman Catholicism be considered an “arm” of the Antichrist/Beast when the Papacy today is not killing non-Catholic Christians and hasn’t been for hundreds of years? Islam, however, is killing both Catholic and non-Catholic Christians at an ever increasing pace as we speak, yet the Pope is not calling for the heads of Protestants, or anyone for that matter. In fact, the Papacy is calling for an end to war and killing and has even recently Canonized 800 Christian “martyrs of Otranto” who were beheaded by 15th century Islamists. If the Papacy is an “arm” of Antichrist, it’s been amputated long ago.

    John describes being taken to a desert in Revelation 17:3, but if the “woman sitting on a scarlet beast” is referring to Rome in any way, shape or form, when was Rome ever a desert or an empty wilderness? This simple yet significant detail in Revelation alone — which is a “sister book” of Daniel — suggests that Rome is never in view here, but rather a place such as Mecca in the “desert kingdom” of Saudi Arabia, the spiritual birthplace of the “Christian cult” of Islam. The kingdom of Saud is Antichrist to its core and has exported a radical Islamic theology throughout the earth since the curse of this wickedness was loosed. One can easily deduce that Islam alone, which calls for the killing of all Christians regardless of whether one is Catholic or Protestant and which also sanctions the beheading of such “infidels”, is in fact the Beast that both Daniel and John prophesied about.

    A few questions for the missionary would be along these lines: What happened to the Seven Churches of Asia Minor mentioned in Paul’s letters — have they all become Roman Catholic, or have they all been destroyed and/or converted into mosques through Islamic conquest? Since Catholics believe that Jesus is God in the flesh who died on the cross for the sins of the world, are there therefore any Catholics who are born-again and saved by the blood of Christ? (The answer is of course, yes, there are). Since Islam denies that Jesus is God in the flesh and denies that Christ died on the cross for the sins of the world, can there therefore be any Muslims who are born again and saved by the blood of Christ? (The answer is a resounding no).

    The suggestion that Catholicism is another “arm” of Antichrist implies that all Catholics are unable to obtain salvation, and though I take issue with many doctrines of the Cathoic church (as well as some Protestant doctrines), the suggestion that no salvific faith can exist in the heart of a Catholic is not a biblical position to take, inferings that all of the Catholics today who refuse to deny Christ and who are being shot, blown up, beheaded etc. by Islamists for the faith of Jesus are all dying for Christ in vain. Such an argument is indefensible.

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    • 05/14/2013 at 8:51 AM

      I think that the benchmark prophecy of the regathering of Israel from among the nations was what began the birth pangs, marking the start of end of the age. There is no exact time frame for the duration of the birth pangs.

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  24. 05/14/2013 at 9:01 AM

    Not only is Mecca in the desert but it also sits among 7 mountains, it is mountains that are mentioned in prophecy, not hills. Yeshua also said that if they tell you that I am in the desert, do not go. Yeshua has given us the logistics necessary to identify Mecca.

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  25. 05/14/2013 at 10:35 AM

    The 7 mountains, in context, are seven “kings” or nations/empires:

    “The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come. Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.

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    • Mike
      05/14/2013 at 11:55 AM

      The harlot “sits” on “seven mountains” (Rev. 17:9 ). The term “sitting on” is sometimes used as a designation of authority, like how Christians are seated with Christ (Eph 2:6). Thus, Saudi Arabia is seated in an assumed position of spiritual authority over all, keeping the world in submission by its control of the price of oil and by being the birthplace and epicenter of all things Islamic.

      (Rev 17:10) and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.

      Looking at the Scriptures that follow and are linked to it, the seven mountains ARE the seven kings which represent periods of rule under what are best described as seven kingdoms. Five have come and gone until the Ottoman (the sixth) was disbanded in 1924. The seventh, the final bid for a worldwide Caliphate is yet to come. That will be the future time of Islamic attempts to put the entire world into submission under Sharia law, though it may only enjoy limited, regional success. The eighth is the beast himself who is “one of the seven”, meaning he follows from the previous seven and is himself the last, final claim of rule over the earth.

      The kingdoms being referred to are the kingdoms throughout history that have been uniquely anti-Yahweh, anti-Israel, hostile to the God of Israel, and by extension, Israel. These five that have fallen, in correct historical sequence are

      Egypt
      Assyria
      Babylon
      Medo-Persia
      Greece

      Rome follows as the sixth kingdom that “is”, because from the perspective of John the Revelator, Rome was the world power at that time and at that time, very hostile to the Judeo-Christian God, the God of Israel, the Jews and Christians. This leaves an Islamic empire as the seventh hostile kingdom, the kingdom “yet to come”. From John’s perspective, this seventh kingdom would be in the future. Beginning with the defeat of Constantinople in 1453, the gateway to the Middle East was effectively “cut off” and all Mediterranean, central European and North African countries that were once predominantly Christian were subjugated by Muslim armies and effectively put under Islamic rule.

      That Islam is described here as the seventh kingdom, the one “yet to come” has even more support from the text. Notice in Rev 13:2 it says…

      (Rev 13:2) And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority.

      This is describing an animal with traits from multiple animals, coalesced into one mongrel beast. It is a description of the Islamic Empire that conquered the territory the previous empires, represented by the territory the lion (Babylon), bear (Medo-Persia) and the leopard (Greece), once had. It is a direct reference to the fourth beast of Daniel 7:3-7, which has already been identified as Islam.

      (Rev 17:11) “The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.”

      So far we have five historical kingdoms hostile to the God of Israel that from the perspective of John the Revelator had already come and gone. These kingdoms were

      Egypt
      Assyria
      Babylon
      Medo-Persia
      Greece.

      Then, counting the kingdom that was hostile to Jews and Christians during John’s time, that would be Rome, the sixth. Islam would be the seventh. The beast is also an “eighth”, originating from the seven but destined for ultimate failure, destruction.

      The kingdom that “is not” is Islam, when the Islamic Caliphate was disbanded by Turkish secular reformer Mustafa Kernal Ataturk in 1924. The eighth, which has characteristics of all the previous “which was” and “is”…Is “not”, is the final, attempt of a world-wide, revived Islamic Caliphate yet to come but personally embodied in the being of the antichrist.

      We are seeing the signs of an Islamic Caliphate being revived today in the so-called Arab Spring, Islam’s spread through secularized European nations once considered Christian and attempts to infiltrate non-Muslim countries through cultural jihad, using existing freedoms of speech and religion to establish Sharia law, which ultimately eliminates freedoms of speech and religion, putting all under the slavery of Islam.

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      • Mike
        05/15/2013 at 4:43 PM

        ICA, I replied to the missionary on Sudan, politely yet succinctly asking the your critical questions pertaining to the Reformed view. I also asked a few of my own, challenging him to look outside the Reformed window and tell me what he sees. I am condfident he will see atrocities inflicted by Islam, not the Papacy.

        It seems unfathomable that one could miss what is going on today, consider the relevant Scriptures and come to any other conclusion other than the Bible’s end times antichrist being Islamic.

        Sometimes I wonder if perhaps all this “Islam is a religion of peace” garbage is really just part of the end times deception. the whole world seems to turn a blind, apathetic eye to it all. It just boggles the mind how so many so-called Christians could be missing it.

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  26. ICA
    05/15/2013 at 5:17 PM

    Mike, “It seems unfathomable that one could miss what is going on today, consider the relevant Scriptures and come to any other conclusion other than the Bible’s end times antichrist being Islamic. Sometimes I wonder if perhaps all this “Islam is a religion of peace” garbage is really just part of the end times deception. the whole world seems to turn a blind, apathetic eye to it all.”

    This one verse that John wrote sums it up well: Revelation 17:2, “With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

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  27. Ben
    06/06/2013 at 12:19 PM

    I disagree that we are already in the great tribulation. I don’t think we can comprehend how bad it is going to be. We are just currently seeing world events build up to the trigger point that will begin the tribulation.

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  28. Mike
    06/06/2013 at 1:01 PM

    In case anyone hasn’t noticed, ALL of the events described by Jesus in Matt 24:5-31, Luke 17:26-29 and 2 Thess 2 are happening now. Are you watching?

    From Matthew 24:5-31

    There are many coming in Christ’ name, misleading many.
    There are wars and rumors of wars.
    There are nations rising against each other.
    There are famines and earthquakes.
    There is significant tribulation. Recent data suggests 100,000 Christians a year die a martyred death, from exclusively Muslim majority countries.
    There probably are, among some Christians, those who have apostatized. Out of fear of losing their life, they may have converted to Islam and become an enemy of their previous Christian friends and family
    There are many false prophets have come into existence. Muhammad has passed away (into hell fire) but his teachings endure through his manual of destruction, the Quran and his sycophant followers. And today’s false prophets are merely disguised as popular Christian personalities, charlatans making millions of dollars marketing themselves in Christ’s name to gullible people lacking spiritual discernment.
    Lawlessness has increased and people’s love has grown cold as evidenced by disobedience to God’s moral law, a love for the things of the world and spiritual apathy.
    False christs and false prophets have arisen, notably, Apollo Quiboloy (Philippines) and Vissarion (Russia) and new age/theosophical deceiver Maitreya. There are even false signs and miracles…

    Stars (meteorites?) have had a significant increase in the last year, even large explosions from meteorites over Russia and the Gulf of Mexico.
    What remains to occur from Matthew 24:5-31 is the sun darkening, the moon not giving light, and the sign of the Son of Man appearing in the sky with everyone mourning while the angels gather up all of God’s elect (genuine believers). If one is to take Matthew 24:4-31 as a sequential order of events, then the return of Jesus Christ should be near. But even if these events are not listed in sequential order, it still remains evident that we are in the generation that these events take place. Jesus said…

    (Mat 24:33-34) so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

    We are seeing all these things happening right now. Do you recognize that He is near, right at the door?

    (2Th 2:3) Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

    Apostasy is a departure from truth. Someone who apostatizes therefore must first know the truth in order to depart from it. There is apostasy going on in the church now, and I will name names. Examples are the so-called Prosperity Gospel ( Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyers, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar etc etc), compromising love of the world from the likes of Joel Osteen, misguided missionary work and evangelism from the G12 Movement, Insider Movement and Chrislam, Radical Grace (which is really antinomianism in disguise) being popularized by Joseph Prince and a plethora of other heretical and irreverent teachings. There is the recent increase in acceptance of homosexual marriage in many churches and fornication and adulteries going on in Christian universities. There is the very recent and unorthodox end time teaching of the the pre-tribulation rapture with all of its burdensome theological baggage and lucrative marketing of books, videos and other merchandise. And then there are those so-called Christians (on account of being American) who are more interested in conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and micro-chip implants than about humbling themselves before God and looking for Christ’s return.

    (2Th 2:8-11) Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,

    Even today there are signs and false wonders. False tongues and false healings…Statues of Mary weeping blood…Text from the Quran inscribed on a baby’s arm as it is born….Reading the Quran resulting in healings…Allah’s name appearing on beef…Maitreya allegedly appearing and disappearing into thin air…These are all false wonders. People who believe such false wonders are under a deluding influence. They don’t love truth, so God gives them over to what they want, a lie.

    What remains to occur from 2 Thess 2 is the removal of the restraint of sin and the revealing of the lawless one, a reference to the end times antichrist. In other words, in the days just prior to Jesus’ return, sin will become unchecked.

    (Luk 17:26-27) “And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.

    Much of the world today is characterized by the pursuit of mundane aspects of life, buying and selling, eating and drinking, marrying and in many parts of the world, divorcing. Little thought is given to Jesus’ return and ultimate judgment. There is little if any fear of God. The days of Noah were a culture ensconced in murder and destruction. Murder was so commonplace that it was even boasted about. Beginning with the first murder (Cain’s murder of Abel) this trend becomes more evident in the boast of Lamech (Gen 4:23-24) who said to his (multiple) wives…

    (Gen 4:23) Lamech said to his wives, “Adah and Zillah, Listen to my voice, You wives of Lamech, Give heed to my speech, For I have killed a man for wounding me; And a boy for striking me;

    The same word for “killed” in this passage is also used in the (Gen 4:8) pertaining to Cain’s murder of Abel. Lamech is a picture of a self-absorbed, prideful, boastful, violent, immoral person in a culture where murder was used as an attempt to impress women. The character of people during the time prior to the Flood is described in the Bible as…

    (Gen 6:5)……the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    (Gen 6:11) Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was FILLED WITH VIOLENCE.” (emphasis mine)

    (Gen 6:12) God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for ALL FLESH HAD CORRUPTED THEIR WAY upon the earth. (emphasis mine)

    Today, hardly a day goes by without some news broadcast on television reporting a murder somewhere. A study undertaken by the Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence and Development estimated that there was a whopping 490,000 intentional homicides in 2004. The study estimated that the global rate was 7.6 intentional homicides per 100,000 inhabitants for 2004.

    The United Nations Office Of Drugs and Crime made a similar study, arriving at a number of 468,000 intentional homicides for 2010. These are not the number of attempts, but the number of deaths as a result of the attempts. The attempts without resultant deaths would just add to this already massive number of intentional homicides. These homicides are taking place in a wide assortment of countries and cultures in varying economic, political, religious and cultural settings.

    According to in 2010, the highest number of intentional homicides for the year was a whopping 40,974 in Brazil alone, followed by

    India 40,750
    Mexico 25,757
    Ethiopia 20,239
    Indonesia 18,963
    Nigeria 18,422
    South Africa 15,942
    Columbia 15,549
    Russia 14,594
    Pakistan 13860
    Congo 13,558
    China 13,410
    Venezuela 13,080
    United States 12,996

    The list continues. The United States is followed by several African countries, then Central American countries, then the Philippines at 4,947, Myanmar at 4,800 intentional homicides for the year 2010 and many more.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Sure, these statistics are staggering. But what is more frightening is our response to this world wide culture of murder. Though we have a spiritual, moral check in place at this times, nevertheless, murder has become so regular that it’s not even interesting news. It’s not shocking. There are literally so many murders that unless it occurs to a member of our own family, it is generally accepted as the norm. This does not even include the apathy that regularly occurs with the murder of 53 million unborn baby children since Roe vs Wade This is one reason among others, of how our generation is seeing an overall trend in moral, spiritual and physical corruption…just like in the days of Noah.

    The people of the days of Noah were comfortable, acquiescent, tolerant of the most heinous sin, spiritually apathetic and undiscriminating on matters of morality. Today’s culture is fast becoming satisfied with the sin around it. Most are unwilling to stand against the flow of reprobate behavior that is very soon approaching a terminal point at which there will no longer be a moral check. In the days of Noah, a massive vessel was being constructed in the desert and in front of their eyes in preparation for a great flood. They did not see judgment coming then and they don’t see it now. They don’t see because they aren’t looking.

    (Mar 13:37) And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

    (Luk 17:28-29) “It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building; but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

    The days of Lot were much like the days of Noah except for Sodom and Gomorrah being a seat of unchecked homosexual and sodomite self-destruction. It was a community characterized by an acceptance of that reprobate behavior. Today, the US has become paralyzed by political correctness and liberal so-called “tolerance” (a term used with threat of litigation to mean acceptance), so much so that morally degenerate behavior such as homosexuality and sodomy are publicly celebrated lewdly and militantly in so-called “gay pride” parades. Most of those who call themselves “Christian” have been either intimidated by the threat of being labeled a “bigot”, intimidated by the threat of a discrimination law suit or are simply apathetic. If there was a time since first century Corinth that could be characterized as being like the days of Lot, it is now.

    All things considered, including the numerous supporting evidences from the Bible, demonstrating that only modern day Islam can be the hostile antichrist kingdom of the end times, we can begin to see a much clearer picture of the signs of the times, the season of Jesus’ return. Prepare to meet thy God. Repent of your sins while you still can, and with a broken and contrite spirit believe on Jesus as if your life depends on it…because it does.

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  29. Dante Smith
    06/19/2013 at 1:02 PM

    Your latest post was awesome!

    Hello,

    I really loved your latest post on “Unsealed: A Closer Look At Revelation 6 And ‘The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse’”.
    I have gone ahead and added “MidnightWatcher’s Blogspot” to my Flipbaord. Keep writing awesome stuff, and I will keep reading it.

    Thanks again,

    Dante Smith

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  30. Anonymous
    06/26/2013 at 7:44 AM

    We will go through the seven year period. everything doesnt happen on seven years as we r taught. i can prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt. if u want to know when the second coming and third coming of Jesus will b call me 334-379-0964 no one knows the day of his third coming but i can prove to u Jesus is coming back at least two more times. his next coming is to take all christians out of the earth before his wrath is poured out on the earth, then when his wrath is complete he comes again to the earth to Jerusalem gor the thousand year reign on earth. if u want a dvd of my teaching for free or talk about revelation call me 334-379-0964Bill Verdell pastor of Winds Of Change ministries Ozark Alabama

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  31. ICA
    06/26/2013 at 11:11 AM

    Winds of Change Pastor, ” i will give anyone 1,000 dollars if they can prove a pre tribulation, mid tribulation or a post tribulation coming of Jesus within six months of the end of the seven year tribulation period”

    Hi Pastor, thank you for your comments. I’m not really interested in any “reward” [thank you for the gracious offer ;)], but would simply like to chime in briefly, if I may. From what I have ascertained both exegetically and hermeneutically speaking, there is no seven-year tribulation described in the Biblical text nor will there be a “peace treaty” between Israel and Antichrist. It’s a popular idea, but I’ve been forced to conclude that it is largely a fictional one. Please feel free to read this article to discover why those positions have no solid biblical legs to stand on.

    As a side note, the Beast is not something that spontaneously appears overnight. It is here, today. It is killing Christians, today. It is waging war against the saints, today. Tribulation is therefore happening, today.

    Tribulation for the ekklesia of God began nearly 2000 years ago since the time of the Apostles. Tens of millions of Christians have died for their faith throughout the centuries.

    John 16:33, “These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”

    Acts 14:22, “Confirming the souls of the disciples, [and] exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

    Rom 5:3, “And not only [so], but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience”

    Rom 8:35, “Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?”

    Rom 12:12, “Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer”

    2 Cor 1:4, “Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble…”

    2 Cor 7:4, “Great [is] my boldness of speech toward you, great [is] my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.”

    1 Thess 3:4, “For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.”

    I do see 3.5 “prophetic years” of “great tribulation” that will be unprecedented (and whether this refers to literal 360-day prophetic years or “days of years” is itself debatable), but it does not negate the fact that the Beast is already at war with the elect of God, today.

    Winds of Change Pastor, “i will also give anyone 2,000 if u can prove the wrath of God that we cant b a part of as christian is poured out on the earth DURING the seven year tribulation period.

    Issues surrounding the notion of a seven-year tribulation notwithstanding, there are two different types of wrath. We will witness the “thymos” wrath of God, but the “orge” wrath of God is what we are promised deliverance from, which is post-tribulational only. When you get a chance, feel free to read the article titled Lost in Translation: ‘Not Appointed Unto Wrath’ – What Scripture Is Really Saying for a full explanation.

    Winds of Change Pastor, “no one knows the day of his third coming but i can prove to u Jesus is coming back at least two more times. his next coming is to take all christians out of the earth before his wrath is poured out on the earth, then when his wrath is complete he comes again to the earth to Jerusalem gor the thousand year reign on earth.”

    If I’m not mistaken, your position sounds like it may be pre-wrath. In my view (which is post-trib / pre-wrath), the rapture and Second Coming are one and the same. Years ago I’ve come to the conclusion that the pre-wrath position of Marvin Rosenthal — though a very welcomed shift away from pre-tribism — still suffers from many of the same problems inherent to the pre-trib position. For instance, Paul says:

    1 Thess 4:15-17, “For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive [and] remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.”

    Paul is very careful to show us that the dead in Christ are resurrected first, and then those of us who are alive and remain (survive) are caught up with them. We will by no means precede those who are asleep in Christ. The obvious question, therefore, is when does this resurrection happen? John tells us in Revelation:

    Revelation 20:4-5, “And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then [I saw] the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received [his] mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years… This [is] the first resurrection.”

    The dead in Christ that rise first are caught up in the First Resurrection, which is after the tribulation according to John in Rev 20:4-5. The logical implications of the plain and straightforward teachings of the text is undeniable: If the First Resurrection is after the tribulation then there can be no resurrection before the end of the tribulation, and if there is no resurrection before the end of the tribulation then there is therefore no rapture before the end of the tribulation. Pre-tribism (which puts the rapture before a seven-year “tribulation”) and pre-wrath (which puts the rapture closer to the “middle” of a seven-year tribulation) are impossible. According to Scripture, the rapture can only happen after tribulation.

    The only way for the pre-trib and pre-wrath positions to get around this dilemma is to somehow contend that there are “phases” to the First Resurrection, but when we draw that suggestion out to its logical conclusion it is essentially stating that the rapture takes place before the First Resurrection is even fully completed, yet Scripture is clear that we who are alive and remain will by no means precede those who are asleep in Christ. The dead in Christ rise first, and then we who are alive and remain will be caught up with them. According to Revelation 20:4 there are obviously still those who are dead in Christ at the end of the tribulation who will be raised in the First Resurrection, thus showing us that the rapture and Second Coming are married together as one singular event.

    Additionally, in 1 Thess 4:16-17 Paul says that when Christ descends, the dead in Christ are resurrected to Christ and then we will be caught up to meet Christ and the resurrected saints in the air. The word “meet” is the Greek word “apantesis”, and this word only occurs here and in three other places. In Vocabulary of the Greek Testament by G. Milligan and James Hope Moulton, “The word apantesis seems to have been a kind of official welcome of a newly arriving dignitary – a usage which accords excellently with its NT usage.” In Greek culture the word “apantesis” had a technical meaning to describe the visits of dignitaries to cities where the visitor would be formally met by the citizens, or a deputation of them, who had gone out from the city for this purpose and would then be ceremonially escorted back into the city. Apantesis was often used to suggest the meeting of a dignitary or king, a famous person, describing people rushing to meet the one who was coming. For instance, when a Roman emperor approached a city, the leading citizens went out to welcome him and had the honor of processing into the city with him. This whole event was described as the “apantesis.”

    Apantesis from apantáo from apó = from + antáo = to come opposite to, to meet especially to meet face to face describes a meeting especially a meeting of two who are coming from different directions.

    In Matthew 25:1,6 it describes the virgins going out to meet the bridegroom, to escort him back into the house. In Acts 28:14-16 it is used to describe brethren from Rome coming out to Appii Foru, to meet Paul and his company, and then escort them back to Rome. In each example of “apantesis”, the escort back is virtually immediate. We don’t have them going out to meet the subject, then going to where the subject came from for months or years, and then escorting the subject back. That was not the custom. The subject who was coming is met by those who are already at his destination. And what is His destination? Where we are — earth. When Christ comes back to Earth, we will go out to meet him, we will remain in the air briefly until the indignation (“orge” wrath) is complete, and where ever He goes, we go, and He is going to Jerusalem to set His feet upon the Mount of Olives.

    Zech 14:4-5, “And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, [Making] a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south. Then you shall flee [through] My mountain valley, For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee As you fled from the earthquake In the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the LORD my God will come, [And] all the saints with You.

    What is Scripture saying? It is saying that we are not removed from the Earth to conveniently go to Heaven for a relaxing vacation while all hell breaks loose down below. Those of us who are alive and remain (the Greek word means those who survive) are transformed from corruptible to incorruptible, and we are caught up to meet the Lord in the air per the “apantesis”, which means that we escort Christ back to earth — ie. Jerusalem — which is consistent with its usage in each of the other verses of Scripture. Other positions aside from post-trib suddenly change the intended meaning of the word. Instead of us escorting Jesus back to Earth for His Second Coming, they have us conveniently going to Heaven instead, which the text does not say anywhere, at any place, at any time.

    Feel free to comment further. God bless!

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  32. ICA
    06/29/2013 at 1:08 PM

    Original article has been updated to solidify the outline and expand upon a few points.

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  33. Susan
    07/04/2013 at 9:04 AM

    Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I am so grateful for this article. I’ve been aware of the Islam connection for some time, but it really jolted me to realize we are in the 5th Seal. Last night before I went to sleep I asked the Lord to help me understand the Seven Seals and Matthew 24, which I have been studying, and to lead me to those who do understand. I opened your website this morning and saw this article. I knew God had answered my request and I am filled with a solemn excitement. It is very sobering to realize where we are in these last days, and at the same time it is wonderful and thrilling. God bless you.

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    • ICA
      07/04/2013 at 4:22 PM

      Susan, thank you for the kind and encouraging words. I am humbled and blessed to know that our Lord may be using the articles on this blog to teach His Word to others. All glory and honor and power and praise to our King!

      In Him, ICA

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  34. 08/09/2013 at 1:39 PM

    Rev. 6:17 “For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

    It is funny how so much of what is written are similar to the things God has inspired me to think about after almost 10 rounds reading on the book of revelations. I only didn’t think about making the connections with Matthew 24. And I think making connections with Matthew 24 is very interesting. (Could it be that Holy Spirit is revealing to many people in different places almost same things??)

    I always have a strong feeling that “the great tribulation” begins with the 6th seal (Rev 6:17) and not the 1st seal. And i also have the feeling that we are in the time of the 6th seal, a time just before the 7th seal where the trumpets will begin to sound.

    Also, interesting is that in the 7th seal, just before the trumpets begin to sound, John saw multitudes in heaven dressed in white. He was later told that these are those who came out of the tribulation and have been made cleaned by the Lamb. (Rev.7: 9-15). This shows that something happened not earlier than the 7th seal and not later than the starting of the sounding of 7 trumpets.

    Thanks for the great article!

    Edit: A small correction: I feel we are in the time of the 5th seal (but close to the 6th) and some thing dramatic will happen but just as a warning and an indication that “the great tribulation” has begun.

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  35. 08/12/2013 at 3:07 AM

    It is interesting that in Rev 20:4-5 after the Tribulation, we read about a resurrection. In Rev 7:9-14 just before the start of the 7 trumpets Judgment, we read about John suddenly saw a great multitude in heaven which no one could number.

    Those who resurrected in Rev 7:9-14 were described as those who were made clean with the blood of the Lamb. They went through sufferings and tribulations and testing before the start of the 7 trumpets.

    Those who resurrected in Rev 20:4-5 were described as those who did not take the ‘mark of the beast’ and were beheaded.

    Those who resurrected in Rev 7:9-14 Support Jesus as His Bride and therefore will judge from heaven.

    Those who resurrected in Rev 20:4-5 will help Jesus to rule here on earth for a thousand years while the Bride of Jesus will support Jesus and the earthly saints from heaven.

    It looks like even during the time after the 7 trumpets have started, there will be many who will wake up and become great tribulation saints. For that, they will be rewarded. But rest of the dead who took the mark of the beast after the 7 trumpets have started will not be resurrected until thousand years are over.

    I do believe that one of the things that will take place over this period of time is God will re activate man’s spiritual senses.

    Like the time when Elisha prayed and ask God to temporarily activate the spiritual senses of his student so that he will know that God’s angels who were protecting them were greater than the armies that surrounded them.

    So, saints in heaven and saints on earth can easily communicate with each other. When this happens, many will feel judged because they know that others can see them for who they really are inside. Someone who looks humble and small might spiritually shine whereas someone who stands on the pulpit and preach every week might not shine as brightly.

    From the time of the fall until the present time, God closed up man’s spiritual senses. From time to time, only few people were allowed to use their spiritual senses after making conditions to purify themselves. Perhaps, this is a good thing. God knows that many wicked angels could disguise themselves as angels of light. If the spiritual senses of fallen people were opened, many will be easily misled. Nevertheless, some people managed to open up their spiritual senses in a limited way through guidance of evil spirits.

    Anyway,
    1. resurrection of saints (saints who suffered before and saints who suffered after the start of 7 trumpets) is coming.
    2. A time of God’s wrath is coming.
    3. Jesus is coming!

    Those who say that people who believe in “pre-trib” are those who want to escape are not making sense.

    Great Tribulations against Christians have been around for 2 thousand years as you have read. Not only in the hands of Extremist Muslims but also in the hands of Communist.

    Surprising to say, but sometimes true believers even suffered in the hands of other Christians.

    The 7 years of God’s wrath is be nothing compared to the Great Tribulations that Christians went through during the 2,000 years. Many of those who suffered tribulations during the 2,000 years might even be willing to suffer the 7 years of God’s wrath in exchange for the sufferings they went through for the last 2,000 years. What could be worst? You might die because you get hit by a falling space rock … because a tsunami strike … because government pressure you to take a mark of the beast (what’s difference from the pressure Christians went through during the 2,000 years) … because 200 million armies …. nuclear strike???

    Open your eyes and see how tribulations have been around. It is only that Christians in some nations of the west are comfortable. But if you want to you can join in with the tribulation since you say Christians should be tested. Why not? There are plenty of oppressive places you can go to and help to preach Christ Kingdom. If you don’t have the courage then at least pray for these brothers and sisters. Suffer with them in your heart. Then maybe, when the time comes, God would consider you as also one of those who have gone through tribulation.

    At the 5th seals, Saints were crying to God and ask when the tribulations caused by Satan will end. God told them that it will be until the numbers of Martyrs are fulfilled. Could this be the reason why many Christians are dying today in Egypt, Nigeria, in Sudan, in Iran, In communist countries? Then at the 6th seal (Rev 6), when the numbers are fulfilled, God wrath will begin. (The word Pre-trib is misleading. it should be pre Wrath.) Anyway, on both sides, before the day of God’s wrath and after God’s wrath has begun, there is tribulations.

    So, for those who have difficulties to believe in pre Wrath, you can use other things to prove your point but don’t say that it is because some people want to escape and don’t want to be tested. If in the even that God want Christians to suffer God’s wrath, then so be it.

    But if God doesn’t want Christians to suffer God’s wrath, i believe that not all who think of themselves as Christians will be brought to the great gathering with the Lamb in Heaven except those who accept the fact that Christians have been suffering Great Tribulations for the last 2,000 years. You either suffer with your brothers and sisters in the comfort of your home or if you think you can handle it, you can come in and experience the tribulation yourself. Then, you will know that the testing and sufferings might be even more intense than the time of God’s wrath.

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    • Mike
      08/12/2013 at 7:28 AM

      Philip, you say here “Open your eyes and see how tribulations have been around.” and “The 7 years of God’s wrath is be nothing compared to the Great Tribulations that Christians went through during the 2,000 years.”

      I ask you…Open your Bible and tell me where there is a distinct, consecutive 7 year period of God’s wrath mentioned for anywhere. And remember, Jesus taught that the tribulation just prior to His return would be

      (Mat 24:21) “….. a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.”

      This means that what is coming will be worse than any tribulation any Christian or anyone has ever experienced.

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      • 08/12/2013 at 9:48 AM

        Mike,

        You are right. But sufferings is sufferings. In the time of God’s wrath, it is the scale that is different. It is more condensed and more people will be affected. What an individual person suffer because of an earth quake today is the same as what a person will suffer because of an earth quake tomorrow.

        Jesus also show that there has been tribulations throughout history until the time of the end. But, at the time of the end, it will be on a scale that the world has never seen before because at the end of it, Satan has to be thoroughly defeated and God wants to set up His Kingdom. (Satan has to be locked up for a thousand years before being released again for a purpose God knows)

        As for the 7 years, I will study and pray a bit more. As for now, i know that the 2 witness will witness for 3 1/2 years.

        So, it could be 7 period or 7 years I cannot confirm but one thing i know – For the sake of the elect, God will try to shorten those years otherwise no flesh will be left alive.

        Suffering is suffering but it is just because of how it is taking place on such a large scale, people are shocked and in that sense they will think it is worst.

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  36. 08/12/2013 at 12:19 PM

    Suffering is suffering but it is just because of how it is taking place on such a large scale, people are shocked and in that sense they will think it is worst.

    During the time of God’s wrath, once a person is drowned because of a tsunami, what he suffer is the same as what someone went though today if he drowns in a tsunami. If a person is beheaded for his beliefs, the suffering he will experience is the same as the person who is beheaded for his beliefs today.

    I do see some similar phenomena between the 7 trumpets and the 7 bowls Judgements but there are also differences. So, I do not know if they will be just one time 7 rounds of judgements or separate sets of judgements. But for the 7 seals, I see it as events that happened from the time Jesus went back to Heaven until today and until the start of the 7 trumpets.

    Surely, The Lamb who was worthy to open the seals was found when Jesus went back to Heaven and not 2 thousand years later.

    But from the time the Jesus started opening the seals, great tribulations started and people were tested for their faith. Right until the time when the 5th seal is opened, saints cried out to God and asked how long more will their tribulations last. And God comforted them and told them to wait a while longer until the numbers of Christian martyrs are fulfilled.

    Since God has already allowed people on His side to suffer tribulations under Satan, now Satan or any one cannot accuse God for beginning the time of His Wrath. But God’s wrath is not like Satan’s unlimited and uncontrollable wrath against God’s people. God wrath is with a time period and will give man a final chance to repent.

    It is also up to God if He do not want some people to be there when He express His wrath. If God wants us to be there then we will not complain. But if God doesn’t want us to be there then it is also fine. But as I mentioned, if we think about the suffering during the time of God’s wrath and before the time of God’s wrath, what is the difference. Sometimes it is better to be hit by a God who love us then to be hit by a Devil who hates us. The Devil’s anger is uncontrollable but God’s anger is with love.

    Reading the Bible, it cannot be denied that God wants us to be there before the start of the 7 trumpets judgements (and 7 bowls judgements in case it is not parallel to the 7 trumpets).

    As for now, I treat the 7 trumpets and the 7 bowls judgements as separate. Why? Because at the end of the 7 trumpets it describes that God’s temple in Heaven was opened and can be seen. Then in Rev 15:5, it says that the temple in heaven was opened but then out of the temple came 7 angels with the 7 bowls of God’s Wrath. So, even though the temple was opened but people on earth who can see it will not be allowed to enter it yet until the 7 bowls judgements was completed.

    Also, comparing phenomena by phenomena as to what will happen each time a trumpet sounded or a bowl of God’s wrath is being poured, the scale of disaster and even some events are different.

    So, it looks like there will be 2 times 7 rounds of judgements before everything is completed and mankind have their final chance to repent. But of course, God knows that many wicked people will still be unrepentant in spite of the sufferings they go through or able to witness.

    But whether they repent or not, God’s Kingdom must established on earth.
    Many of the unrepentant will have died. Those among the unrepentant who didn’t die will be so weak that they have no more power here on earth. The Beast and the false prophet will already have been removed and thrown into the lake of fire. Satan will already have been cast into the bottomless pit and not able to deceive the nations for a thousand years.

    Spiritual Jerusalem (Jesus Bride) will come down and be united with Earthly Jerusalem and kings of the earth will be guided by its light. All things will be made new. the Tree of Life will appear once again and earthly humans no longer need temples or religious organizations because the Lord Almighty and the Lamb are the temple and the gates of the new Jerusalem will never be shut to those who are true and faithful.

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  39. Shaheen
    09/10/2013 at 6:14 AM

    There is only one Quran , it has never been altered , not a letter or a word .your understanding if Islam is somewhat ignorant.islam is about purity and cleanliness and believing in ONE GOD and all the prophets sent down by
    The Almighty , the HOLY books and the last prophet Mohamed ( peace and blessings be upon him). Islam discovered everything good in modern science , , from algebra , astronomy. Of which Galileo stole references from …the list goes on indeed ….tell me. Something. When u relieve yourself do , do you even wash your hands afterwards ….do you use toilet paper only ..well Muslims use water to to purify their faeces! We know the truth , we try to live it ,stop being a coward and spreading falsehood …..your reckoning is with God Almighty …go study Islam properly ….in the privacy of your own space …it’s Gods decision to ultimately change the condition of your heart. More than a third of the entire worlds population is Muslim and the fastest growing religion in the world ….there are over 50 000 man made man written bibles….u blaspheme and insult I’d Allmighty that he may be human and have a spirit too. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD , AND PROPHET MOHAMED PEACE BE UPON HIM IS HIS LAST MESSENGER

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    • dapreach1
      09/10/2013 at 8:32 AM

      Shaheen, you’re a deluded fool! I don’t say so–God’s Holy Word says so! Your “prophet” is no prophet! Your god is Satan! And Jesus Christ (Who Himself claimed to be God Almighty–in human form) is either who He said he was or he’s a liar and an imposter! You muslims say that you love Jesus and you honor Him as a great prophet. So why would your “beloved prophet” mohammed, tell you to “love” an imposter and a liar??? Wake up! You can’t have it both ways! You claim that you have the “revelation” of God’s standard of righteousness written in your koran! You claim that God does not have a Son, that God is One God. So if that’s true then tell me why your own prophet used the plural forms “we” and “us” every time he supposedly quotes the sayings of allah in the koran?? YES, THAT’S RIGHT, MOHAMMED QUOTES ALLAH USING THE PLURAL PRONOUNS, “WE” AND “US”! Go figure!?!

      I’ll grant you this–GOD IS ONE GOD AND ONLY ONE!!!! YES, ABSOLUTELY HE IS!!!

      Just as an egg is one egg, and only one–shell, yolk and white–three in one! ONE EGG!
      No ‘yolk’!!! Get it???

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    • 09/10/2013 at 12:40 PM

      All I can say Shaheen, is; THANK GOD! Mohammed is your last non-prophet, because humanity could not endure another!

      I love Walid Shoebat, because he is a master at debunking Islam. He exposes Islam’s under belly, its lies, and its demonic practices. Shoebat points out the fact that the unholy Koran, unlike the Bible, can’t produce any archeological evidence to back up its claim of purity. The Bible, on the other hand has the Dead Sea Scrolls, and eye witness accounts by ancient historians like Josephus, and others.

      If the original Koranic manuscript were ever to surface, you’ll be able to validate it by all of the singe marks it acquired on its journey up from the abyss.

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      • Amino
        08/15/2015 at 10:17 AM

        Walid Shoebat is surely a Jesuit infiltrator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJpQ4-0Iwhk There will be no Muslim Antichrist because the Pope is the False Prophet and the Roman Church the Harlot riding on the Antichristian Beast Empire which is installed right now before our very eyes: The Pope will speak before the UN in September 2015 and guess what? He will declare that he is the “Supreme Pontiff” and he will set in motion the Marxist Agenda 21 which is the guide to enslave us: We will get jammed together like cattle, like the Jewish people in Warsaw we will get our own ghetto, each and everyone. It’s happening already in China. And finally he will try to mark us with his number, the Mark of the Beast. You already have such a number in the registry of the Vatican. It’s already settled and the announcement was made back in 2013. If you watch the following video of Stephen Ben DeNoon he will help you to understand that the Islamic Antichrist is the same hoax as Islam itself. The Quran was written by satanic Catholic agents – things are so obvious. You only must open your eyes. God bless.

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  40. ICA
    09/10/2013 at 12:31 PM

    Shaheen, “There is only one Quran , it has never been altered , not a letter or a word … believing in … the HOLY books and the last prophet Mohamed”

    Hi Shaheen, thank you for visiting the blog and for your comment. Here are a few facts for your consideration that are historically/archaeologically verifiable. The Qur’an is just 1 book that was “written” (recited) over a period of 23 years by 1 man. The Bible is a collection of 66 different books that were written over a period of 1,500 years by 40 different authors (the oldest books may be nearly 4000 years old). According to Biblical Scripture, the Law and the Prophets ended with John (Luke 16:16), and was fulfilled with the true Jesus of Biblical Scripture (Matthew 5:17). We believe that all additional “law” from any self-professed “prophet” afterward is man-made and false.

    As I note in my “Questions for Muslim Visitors” page, archaeological discoveries have repeatedly confirmed what Christians have already believed, that Biblical manuscripts and fragments dated even hundreds of years before Mohammed are virtually identical to the canonized Biblical texts we have today. The same cannot be said for the Qur’an, however, despite the claim by Muslims that the Qur’an has never been altered. Even honest Muslim archaeologists acknowledge that many aberrations exist in old Qur’anic texts, a forthright admission that runs counter to the Islamic claim that the Qur’an is unchanged and eternal. Contrary to the claims of Muslim apologists, not only does the Qur’an distort and incorrectly define some very basic Christian doctrines, it is also at odds with factual and observable science by presenting a flat earth model for the earth and universe, for instance (and Muslim apologists scrambled to re-interpret their book when science proved it wrong). Moreover, when Muhammad recited the Qur’an, he clearly stated that he did not believe that the Bible was “corrupt” at that time and called upon Christians to adhere to the Scriptures that they already possessed. But this begs the question: Since the Scriptures we have today are the same Scriptures that Christians had even well before the time of Mohammed, when do you believe the Bible could have possibly been corrupted, who corrupted it, and how was it corrupted? Not only that, please feel free to explain how and why anyone should seriously take a book like the Qur’an that isn’t even arranged chronologically, yet says to ignore earlier verses? What is your definition of “timeless” and “unchanged” and “unaltered”?

    Shaheen, “islam is about purity and cleanliness”

    How can Islam be pure and clean when it promotes things like terrorism, war, the love of death and martyrdom, hatred, misogyny, racism? It even instructs Muslims to lie in the defense and promotion of Islam. How is any of this pure and clean?

    Shaheen, “and believing in ONE GOD”

    “ONE GOD” is emphasized, implying that Christians are polytheistic in what they believe, and this is because of Mohammed’s misunderstanding of what Christianity taught and practiced. Islam teaches that the Christian belief of the Trinity is a polytheistic teaching of  “three gods”, characterized as the “Father”, and the “Son” and the “Virgin Mary”.  Not only does the “Virgin Mary” have nothing to do with the Trinity (it is the Holy Spirit, not Mary), we believe in One God only and One God that is Triune.  Not three gods.  To use an analogy to illustrate this, consider fire.  When we observe the fire of a candle, for example, we observe three distinct things: light, heat, and a flame. Yet, the light is fire. The heat is fire. The flame is fire. Although these three are fire, are there three fires, or only one?  Likewise, the Father is called God in Scripture (Phil 2:1), and so is the Son (John 1:1,14; Col 2:9), and so is the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3-4).  Even though there is a clear distinction, there is only One God.  As Deuteronomy 6:4 declares, “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.” Literally translated, “Hear, O Israel: Yahweh and our Elohim are a united one.”  The Old Testament demonstrates a plurality in the Godhead that is a united One, and this distinction is reaffirmed in the New Testament: “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him” (John 14:23).

    Shaheen, “Islam discovered everything good in modern science , , from algebra , astronomy. Of which Galileo stole references from …the list goes on”

    The fact of the mattter is that algebra pre-dates Islam by hundreds of years. Also, here’s an article from an Arab writer that you might be interested in reading:

    Arab Writer: Islam’s Uncivilized ‘Civilization’ Has Accomplished Nothing, ‘Philosophy And Logic Are Considered Heresy In Islam’ -“When I was a student in the Arab schools, I studied a curriculum module or unit called ‘Islamic civilization’ which was taught by a Salafist Imam. His whole curriculum was a biography of the Salafists ‘Ahlu Sunna’ group; a group that wants to follow the works of Muhammad’s times and the early Muslims. All we studied was ‘so and so said…‘ and ‘the Shari’a tells us to do such and such…’ the whole curricuum was designed for ‘Islamic brainwashing’…

    Now, greater civilizations of the past left us witnesses to their accomplishments. The Romans did. So did the Greeks, the Mayas and the Chinese. The great Egyptian civilization of old left us the Pyramids – one of their witnesses to their accomplishments.

    Where is the evidence for the Muslims civilization? Is it the Ummayyad Mosque in Damascus? This was no more than a Christian church that the Muslims took over and converted to a mosque, just to annoy the Christians and make their life as uncomfortable as possible.

    The old civilizations had their greatest accomplishments in the proximity of their origins. For Muslims this is the Mecca and Medina areas. But there are no accomplishments there. All there is is a pre-Islamic black stone enclosed within a mud cube. There is nothing worth mentioning in Mecca or Medina. Even in other areas Muslims accomplished nothing. In the example of Spain, Muslims took over buildings by force from the original natives, and stayed there, unwelcome, until the natives had enough power to get rid of the Muslims. Had not the Muslims been kicked out of Spain, we would have today Kandahar instead of Marbella and Waziristan rather than Mallorca and Mogadesho instead of Barcelona.

    How beautiful you are, my mind, when you are in the right environment!

    Thanks to my studies in the lands of infidels, my mind had a healthy development and the ability to do critical thinking. In comparison, education in Muslim areas is just indoctrination.

    An example of intellectual theft by Muslims is that they invented the concept of ‘zero’ without which computers would not have been possible.

    This is a lie, the concept of zero came from the Indians. The same applies to ‘Arabic’ numerals that have their origins in Babylonia.

    What Muslims like to teach and brag about are half-truths.” Read more here.

    Shaheen, “THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD , AND PROPHET MOHAMED PEACE BE UPON HIM IS HIS LAST MESSENGER”

    According to Christianity, there is only One God and Yeshua is His Messiah. Shaheen, as Christians we have been forewarned by the Apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 11:4 against accepting the teachings of those who “preach another Jesus” or “another gospel” than that which we have already been given by the Apostles of Biblical Scripture. Whether it be the Jesus and teachings of Mormonism, or the Jesus and teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses, or the Jesus and teachings of Islam, they all fall well short of the Jesus and teachings of the historic Christian faith that was delivered to the saints. In fact, if anyone “or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!” (Galatians 1:8). Yet according to Islam, the angel “Gabriel” gave another gospel to Mohammed which, instead of rejecting, he decided to accept.

    Jesus forewarned His believers that “many false prophets will appear and deceive many people” who would even “perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible” (see Matthew 24:11,24). The Apostle Paul calls them “counterfeit miracles” or “lying wonders” in his epistle to the believers in Thessalonica (2 Thess 2:9) whereby many would be deceived. Not just a few, but a large number of people would be lead down a road of serious theological error by the false teachings, false signs and false miracles of false prophets. Have you wondered why Islam teaches that the Qur’an itself is a “living miracle”? Or why it is taught that Mohammed’s war victories and his ascent into Heaven during the “Night Journey” were “great signs”? Questioning these “great signs and miracles” and viewing them through the lens of critical thinking is paramount to questioning the “Word of Allah” to the Islamic mindset, and the history of Islam has been one of “anti-intellectualism” where Muslims are discouraged from asking difficult questions about Mohammed or about the Qur’an and its teachings. Why?

    Shaheen, please think about the following very carefully. In your closing statement you paraphrased the Shahada of Islam. Now, one of the reasons why so many Muslims despise Christians and Christianity is because we associate Jesus with God, making Jesus a co-equal “partner” with the Almighty. According to Islam, this is called “shirk“ and is an unpardonable sin that Allah will never forgive. The truth of the matter, however, is that Islam itself also associates the “prophet” Mohammed — whom Muslims claim to be the most “perfect man” to ever walk the face of the earth — with Allah himself. On one hand, Islam teaches that Allah has no partners, but then contradicts itself by teaching that someone cannot become a Muslim unless they acknowledge that “There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger” per the Shahada. Unless one acknowledges Mohammed they cannot become a Muslim. Consider the following verses from the Qur’an and Hadith:

    Qur’an Sura 4:136a, “O you who have believed, believe in Allah AND His Messenger [Mohammed] and the Book that He sent down …”

    Hadith Bukhari 2996, “… [Mohammed] said, ‘Become Muslim and you will be safe. Know that the earth belongs to Allah AND His Messenger. I want to expel you from this land. Whoever of you has some property should sell it. However, the earth belongs to Allah AND His Messenger.’”

    Qur’an Sura 3:31, “… If you should love Allah, THEN FOLLOW ME [Mohammed], so Allah will love you and forgive you your sins …”

    Do you see what Islam is truly teaching, Shaheen? According to the Qur’an and Hadiths, a Muslim’s “salvation” is entirely determined by their obedience and devotion to Mohammed, effectively elevating the “prophet” of Islam to the same co-equal status of Islam’s own deity and making Mohammed a partner with Allah. To acknowledge the god of Islam is not enough. The “perfect man” Mohammed MUST be acknowledged alongside Allah as well.

    According to Islam itself, Islam is itself guilty of the very sin of “shirk” that Muslims accuse Christians of committing.

    Before I close, let’s briefly examine the accusation of “shirk” against Christianity and the Islamic claim that God has no son. In addition to Mohammed’s misunderstanding that the Trinity is “three gods” (a misunderstanding which I corrected earlier), the Qur’an teaches that, according to Christianity, God acquired a son through procreation with Mary. In the eyes of Muslims, the term “son of God” is believed to be, and is therefore understood, in a literal sense.  But this misrepresentation is so far from the basic tenets of Christianity that any serious student of the Qur’an should begin questioning the veracity of some of the teachings of Islam on this error alone.  The term “son of God” in the Bible is an anthropomorphism and is intended to be understood in a figurative sense, not in a wooden literal sense. It is a metaphor to describe a relational identity. In John 3:16, Jesus is called the only “begotten” son of God (the Greek word monogenēs) which means “unique” or “one of a kind” or “one and only”.  As Christians, we are all called God’s children (Matthew 5:9; Romans 8:16; Galatians 3:6; Galatians 4:5; Ephesians 1:5, etc.).  But this term is an analogy to describe our relationship to our Heavenly Father.  We are not literal “sons” and “daughters”.  Even the angels are called “sons of God” in the Bible (Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7).  Adam is also called the son of God as well (Luke 3:38). But Jesus is called the only “unique” son of God in Scripture for a very good reason.  In the Old Testament, before Jesus came as a child into this world, He appeared before His people as the “Angel of the Lord”.  He revealed Himself in the burning bush that spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai.  He appeared before Joshua as the Commander of the Hosts of Heaven.  And in the New Testament He is the eternal “Word of God”, called the “unique son of God”, because He is God in the flesh and there is no one else like Him.

    John 1:1,14, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God … And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten [monogenēs] of the Father, full of grace and truth.”

    Shaheen, what I say to all Muslim visitors, I say to you as well. Please think about this very carefully. In light of the fact that even Mohammed himself did not know for certain what would happen to him in the afterlife, why should any Christian who knows beyond a doubt that they are guaranteed eternal life through faith in the Jesus of the Bible, give up the Christian faith of Jesus for the Islamic faith of Mohammed which we know will guarantee us nothing? You, too, can have the same guarantee that we as Christians share. All you have to do is believe in and put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. Since you sound sincere, would you sincerely be willing to pray with an open heart and ask God to guide you to His truth, even if that truth is found in the Jesus of the Bible, and not in Islam?

    Matthew 1:21, “She shall bring forth a son. You shall call his name YESHUA, for it is he who shall save his people from their sins.”

    John 3:16, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten [monogenēs – “unique”] Son [YESHUA], that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”

    Isaiah 62:11, “Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy YESHU’AH cometh; behold, HIS reward [is] with HIM, and HIS work before HIM.”

    Revelation 22:12, “And behold, I [YESHUA] am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.”

    John 14:6, “YESHUA said to him, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through Me.'”

    Romans 10:13,For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

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    • 09/10/2013 at 2:08 PM

      Thank You, ICA! I have learned as much, if not, “more” from you as I have from, “Proof Directory” over the years! I love the way in which you have completely identified from where all these “things” (for lack of a better word at the moment) Muslims claim as being their own.

      Once again, “Thank You!”

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