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Kazakhstan: Fall of Soviet Union Gives Birth to Islamic Religious Revival in Former Soviet Republic, and the Rise of Islamic Terror


By Jacob Zenn – “After the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the people of Kazakhstan, like those in the rest of the former Soviet Republics, experienced a revival in religious affiliation.

In some sectors of Kazakh society, the repression of spiritual life in the Soviet days was reversed when Kazakhstan became independent in December of that year. Previously non-existent elements of Salafism crept to the surface in Kazakhstan and are now apparent, especially in the southern and western regions of the country located near the Caspian Sea and the volatile North Caucasus.

Salafism is a reform movement of Islam in which followers believe that the life of their Prophet Mohammad and the earliest Muslim community constitutes a universal paradigm for interpreting world events and history…

‘Jihadi-Salafists’ see historical evolution as the unfolding of a single contest: the struggle of Good (true Islam) versus Evil (false Islam and Disbelief)…

On November 12, 2011, in Taraz, southeastern Kazakhstan, Maksat Kariyev went on a noontime rampage killing five security officers, one gun shop guard, and himself in a suicide bombing that he detonated when a police commander approached him…

On October 31, in Atyrau, a port city on the Caspian Sea in western Kazakhstan, a terrorist blew himself up next to an apartment building near the intended target – the Prosecutor-General’s office – and another bomb detonated in a garbage can blocks away…

In Boraldai Village outside of Alamaty, five JaK fighters were killed on December 3, 2011, when Kazakhstan security forces surrounded them inside their safe house. Kazakh authorities suspected the cell of carrying out a drive-by shooting that killed two police officers on November 8 and possibly another November 11 shooting in Almaty in which two other police officers were killed…

On December 6, three days after the Boraldai shootout, JaK issued a statement saying that JaK fighters were ‘ready to be killed in the thousands in order to support [Islam]’ …” Read more.

  1. Willard
    01/25/2012 at 2:07 PM

    ICA – Regards the 200,000,000 army in Rev I and also my grand father thought that this would be from China as do many others. Do you think that possibly this 200 million man army could be the Islamic hordes East of the Euphrates River as mentioned in this article – sounds like a lot of people for this part of the world BUT!

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  2. ICA
    01/25/2012 at 3:10 PM

    Yes, the only other ‘nation’ that could support an army of 200 million is the ‘Islamic nation’. Note, however, that the text of Revelation 9:13-16 does not say that this army only originates east of the Euphrates. John merely says that four angels are loosed that were bound at the Euphrates, and then describes an army of 200 million men. The “sister verse” of Revelation 16:12 simply refers to the Euphrates being “dried up, so that the way of the kings from the east might be prepared.” There is no mention of what this entails specifically, though I would surmise that it is something takes place that enables the totality of the 200 million-man army per Revelation 9:16.

    If a game-changing event happens that is pivotal in Islamic eschatology and Muslims begin believing that they are at the cusp of their Islamic ‘hour of resurrection’ or ‘Judgment Day’, this would very easily entice tens and tens of millions of Muslims as jihad’s call to arms to march against Israel, especially when we consider the fact that according to Islam the only way to guarantee entry into Paradise is to wage jihad and die for the cause of Allah. This would not be limited to Muslims only east of the Euphrates. It would include all Muslims throughout the Middle East, North Africa, and elsewhere. Ezekiel’s description of the nations/peoples involved in Gog-Magog does not exclude their number. I believe that the 200 million includes them all.

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  3. 01/25/2012 at 3:41 PM

    Is it possible that these verses are not literal, i.e., not 200,000,000 “horsemen”?

    15 And the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released, so that they would kill a third of mankind.

    Does this mean 1/3 of all on earth, or 1/3 of the known world or power at the time–the Roman Empire, as John knew it when he wrote from the Isle of Patmos.

    16 The number of the armies of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them.

    Horsemen? Will they be riding horses?

    17 And this is how I saw in the vision the horses and those who sat on them: the riders had breastplates the color of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone; and the heads of the horses are like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths proceed fire and smoke and brimstone.

    Lion-headed horses? Out of their mouths fire, smoke and brimstone?

    18 A third of mankind was killed by these three plagues, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which proceeded out of their mouths.

    Same question as v. 15

    19 For the power of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents and have heads, and with them they do harm.

    Serpent-tailed horses that have tails doing harm?

    From a symbolic book we need to draw symbolic meaning, not 1/2 symbolic and 1/2 literal. You will not arrive at the actual intent of the author and the Holy Spirit by either 1) attempting to determine with your common senses what is symbolic and what is literal, nor 2) take everything literally.

    I would like someone to explain to me, Willard, ICA, or whomever, how they legitimately can state that on one hand 200 million literal “people” are intended here (not horsemen), and that literal Fire-breathing, lion-headed horses are not meant, but say tanks or artillery are.

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  4. ICA
    01/25/2012 at 4:23 PM

    I view this as 1/3 of all those (anthrōpos – “men” not “mankind”) under the Beast’s control/rule, given the context. Rev 9:4 – those (anthrōpos) who “have not the seal of God”; 16:2 – “upon the men (anthrōpos) who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image”; 16:6 – those who have “shed the blood of saints and prophets”; 16:10 – “upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness”, yet despite these judgments the rest of the men (anthrōpos) refuse to repent – Rev 9:20-21. This cannot be all of mankind, because there is a great multitude that comes out of the great tribulation that have not worshiped the Beast, who have obviously repented (Rev 7:9,14).

    The word for “horsemen” is (hippikos) and this is the only time the word is used in the New Testament. The word also means “cavalry”, which today also means “the motorized, armored units of a military force organized for maximum mobility.” Given the fact that this is referring to an eschatological event preceding the Second Coming of Christ, I do not believe it is literally referring to 200 million men riding on 200 million horses. It stands to reason that it simply denotes fighters/soldiers. I consider the number to be possibly literal (and if literal not an impossible number per above), however it could also be symbolic. It is conceivable either way and does not change the meaning significantly whether literal or symbolic with the thrust of the text indicating an extremely large army amassing against Israel, and against God.

    As for the lion-head horses and serpent-tails, as you know John says they are “like” as in “similar to”, not that that is what they were. The “fire and smoke and brimstone” is easy to deduce given the state of modern warfare and the events leading up to the surrounding nations being gathered together for battle at Armageddon (Rev 16:16).

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  5. Willard
    01/25/2012 at 4:35 PM

    If one were to put ourselves in Johns shoes and see what he seen Kurt – a picture 2000 years down the road how would one describe it. If you were given a vision of a war in the year 4015 how would you describe the weapons of war??

    His vision may well have been of war horses (they just had a movie come our War Horse – excellent movie) back on topic – I can envision his description from 2000 years ago being today’s war machines, tanks with guns that could be described as snakes with heads and tails (tanks), scorpions as helicopters also verse 18 which is a perfect description of modern day warfare. I am only suggesting symbolism here.

    Verse 17 sound and looks a lot like one sees in ancient Chinese armies at war – I have some of the horses as art that they found in the pits some years ago and a 2000 year ago description would fit a long haired Chinese warrior as a lion headed.

    What I find amazing is IF THIS WERE TO BE CHINA – Rev 1:20 refers to the seven angels as being the stars of the seven churches – verse 15 tells us that there were four angels who released them at the river – there are four small stars on the flag of China and one large or main star – is this the the one that held the trumpet and are the four angels that released representative of the four stars on the flag – are we being given a picture here??.

    Rev 9: 14 It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.15 And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released – the colors mentioned also are colors found in China but they are also found in Turkey and Turkey as well has a star in its flag.

    The catalyst could well be the control of the ME oil fields – China is buying up oil fields around the world including Canada and the USA – this is there focus to control the world – financially – the oil and energy sector – both the rare and also the precious metals sectors

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  6. 01/26/2012 at 12:44 AM

    Glad we’re discussing this – hope you can stick with it for a while. You brought up the context, in particular Rev 9:4. What do you see the locusts (v3) as? (seems like demons), and are they antagonizing/energizing those w/o the seal of God? (v4), presumably WITH the Mark of the Beast? Is this your meaning?

    Verse 9:5 – what is being discussed here? Many ARE being killed currently in the M.E. (Arab Spring), but relatively few. Perhaps this is the “5 months” of calm before the 1/3 of men die.

    Verse 6 – “seek death and not find it”?? “long to die but death flees from them”? –> Plse don’t say ‘many more want to be suicide bombers than actually are’; that seems forced. Perhaps many of the Ummah are ready to against Israel, but it just hasn’t come together yet?

    As you can see, I’m interpreting all these verses in a futurist, hasn’t yet happened sort of eschatology, which I am not convinced is meant; but I’ll go along to get along…

    Verse 7 – “Appearance of locusts…” so if they’re demons, they have an appearance? If not demons, what? “…LIKE (like, similar, resembling) horses prepared for battle” –> The demons, were powerful, ready, prepared? Perhaps ‘locusts’ refers to men? But they come forth from the smoke from the pit, clearly a demonic reference. “on their heads LIKE crowns (authority, empowerment from a greater authority, either kings/presidents or Satan and powerful demons) LIKE gold (pure…what?), and their faces were LIKE the faces of men (so…I think we are talking about demonized men here).

    Verse 8 – “And they had hair LIKE the hair of women (I have no idea what is meant by this), their teeth were LIKE those of lions (ravenous, destructive, dangerous, deadly)

    Verse 9 – I concede this verse is picturesque of modern mechanized warfare…or do you have another idea?

    Verse 10 – “And they (the locusts, the demons working thru the beast’s people) have tails LIKE scorpions, and stings, and int heir tails is their power to hurt men for five months” –> 2nd ref to “5 months”. They only have power to “hurt”, not to kill. This power is in their “tail”. Biblical significance? Follows after them…I’m grasping for any meaning.

    Verse 11 – “They have a s king over them the angel of the abyss…” <– further, rather clear evidence we're talking about demons. Name: Destruction. Seems very apt for Islam.

    I'd like to hear comments on the above; I would like to discuss v13 and FF if there's any interest…

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  7. 01/26/2012 at 12:46 AM

    Meant to say “ready to go up against Israel” above…

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  8. Willard
    01/26/2012 at 2:40 PM

    Kurt I have an early version of Haley’s Bible Hand study book where he claims these locusts to be the Islamic hordes. He describes the early Muslim invaders fulfilling these picture and verses. I am at work but will have a read of it once again and see what else he said. The newest versions I think have been revised so not sure what they suggest. Myself I think that this could very well be what the message is – it suits both the followers and the religion itself.

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  9. ICA
    01/27/2012 at 2:48 PM

    When discussing Revelation 9 and interpretive possibilities, those possibilities will be heavily dictated by whether or not we maintain a futurist view of the book of Revelation as a whole, or another view entirely. Many Christians view Revelation as a series of yet-to-be-fulfilled events, but I cannot agree with that position. Rather, it seems more reasonable to me to fall in line with more of an historicist view instead of a futurist view. Although there are things in Revelation that are yet future, there are many things that have already been fulfilled throughout history and are being fulfilled today.

    I ascribe to the view that the Seals are a general overview of tribulation from beginning to end and immediately after, and that the seals themselves started in the first century of the early Church when tribulation began. I believe that we are now somewhere within the Fifth Seal. The Sixth Seal is next and is post-tribulational. This is where we see the post-trib “cosmic signs” and the gathering of the elect in Rev 7:1 – Rev 8:1 immediately before the Day of the Lord. This is where John is witnessing the gathering of the elect that went through, and comes out of, the great tribulation that is experienced by the ekklesia just prior to the Second Advent. Rev 8:2 begins with John then describing God’s answer for the persecuted saints of the Fifth Seal, jumping back in reference to the persecuted saints. One reason for this is because in Rev 8:3-5 we read about the altar of God, the incense (prayers of the saints), and what happens to the earth in response to those prayers:

    Psalms 141:2, “Let my PRAYER be set before You as INCENSE…”

    Here’s the Fifth Seal:

    Rev 6:9-11, “And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they [were], should be fulfilled.”

    Now compare with:

    Rev 8:3-5a, “And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer [it] with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, [which came] with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth”.

    Keep in mind the Semitic style of Revelation, that John will give broad overviews and jump back to then focus on something that took place earlier. In Rev 8:3-5a we are given an overview of what happens when God answers the prayers of the saints who ask “How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?”, and their answer comes when “the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth”. The end result of this judgment upon the earth is “voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.” (8:5b; Compare with Rev 6:12, 11:19, 16:18). John then jumps back again to now describe what those judgments were, beginning with the First Trumpet.

    So, with respect to the “locusts” of the Fifth Trumpet, let me begin by first saying that I have held to the view that the trumpets would begin some time during the Fifth Seal and continue through to the opening of the 7th, but that they had not started yet. As I described here, it seems to me that the 7th seal, 7th trumpet and 7th vial all end right around the same time in the eschaton given the Semitic Style of Revelation, so instead of being consecutive they are more concurrent. As you are already aware, I view the trumpets and vials as essentially opposite sides of the same coin in that the trumpets are the cause and the vials are the effect which completes the trumpet causation. As far as these positions are concerned, I am fairly convinced in my own mind.

    What I am not convinced with at this point, however, is at what time does the First Trumpet begin? In the past, while I had generally leaned towards the position that the First Trumpet would begin during the Fifth Seal and could be blown at any moment, additional studies have lead me to believe that it is entirely possible that some trumpets have already been blown, including the Fifth Trumpet where we read about the “locusts” of Revelation 9. Seeing through a glass darkly it is often difficult to ascertain the meaning of some of Revelation’s symbolism, but I think it’s wise to be open to more than one possibility, and one of those possibilities is that these “demon locusts” do in fact refer to Islam. Some believe it describes the spread of Islam that we have witnessed starting nearly 1400 years ago. In the 12th Century an Islamic scholar named Abul Ala Mawdudi wrote a book calling the spiritual homestead of Islam — modern day Saudi Arabia — the “Abyss of Darkness” to introduce non-Arab readers to Islam. Incidentally, these “locusts” come from the abyss (abyssos) in Revelation 9:2. But does it refer to everything that we have been witnessing starting 1400 years ago up until now? Or could it be what we have starting witnessing recently over the past year with the “Arab Spring” and the rise of Islamic fundamentalism and what is coming in the near future? I’m thinking it’s the latter, but I could be wrong.

    Rev 9:4, “And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.”

    Since the seal of God is spiritual, as is the Mark of the Beast, then Revelation 9:4 could be referring to something symbolic and/or spiritual. These “locusts” are only able to hurt those who “have not the seal of God in their foreheads”, which is directly contrasted with what or who they could NOT hurt — the “grass of the earth” and green things and any tree. This could be referring to the people of God who HAVE the seal of God in their foreheads. (cf Job 5:25, “You shall also know that your descendants shall be many, And your offspring like the grass of the earth“; John 15:4,8, “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself … unless you abide in Me … By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples”; Luke 13:18-19, “Then He said, ‘What is the kingdom of God like? … It is like a mustard seed … and it grew and became a large tree…”). Even the “Israel of God” is likened to a tree (Rom 11:24-26). Since the seal of God and Mark of the Beast are spiritual, I would surmise that the “locusts” are not able to spiritually harm the elect (the ekklesia), that is to say, they cannot deceive them (Matthew 24:24; cf Rev 3:10). It wouldn’t be referring to literal, physical harm because there are many Christians who are being killed for the faith of Jesus, even as we speak (Rev 14:2). But these “locusts” are able to inflict detrimental spiritual harm upon those who do not have the seal of God “in their foreheads” (Rev 16:10), and we see this played out today in full view.

    I’ll have to leave it there for now but will touch upon some other verses when I get another chance …

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  10. 01/27/2012 at 3:49 PM

    ICA: “What I am not convinced with at this point, however, is at what time does the First Trumpet begin? In the past, while I had generally leaned towards the position that the First Trumpet would begin during the Fifth Seal and could be blown at any moment, additional studies have lead me to believe that it is entirely possible that some trumpets have already been blown, including the Fifth Trumpet where we read about the “locusts” of Revelation 9. Seeing through a glass darkly it is often difficult to ascertain the meaning of some of Revelation’s symbolism, but I think it’s wise to be open to more than one possibility, and one of those possibilities is that these “demon locusts” do in fact refer to Islam. Some believe it describes the spread of Islam that we have witnessed starting nearly 1400 years ago…”

    Kurt: This corresponds exactly with traditional historicism. Laying aside historicism’s ID of AC/Beast with the RCC/Pope (which I have), I agree with this aspect of historicism. In fact, I have no reason to back away from what I wrote here: http://prophesite.wordpress.com/category/book-of-revelation/ about the 1st-3rd seals. You might place these too early in history, but in fact these interpretations, which most historicists would agree with, corresponds pretty well with the seals/trumpets view you are describing above.

    I am at work, so I’m going to leave off reading and responding to the rest of your post until later tonight, but to me this is fascinating and important. Obviously there is no way to COMPLETELY figure things out, leaving no question marks, but I believe that at this late point in history we ought to be able to come closer to the meaning of what was prophesied than I’ve seen from other sources, particularly because of the Islamic Beast paradigm to which God has opened our eyes.

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  11. 01/28/2012 at 1:26 AM

    ICA: “Rev 9:4, “And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.”

    Since the seal of God is spiritual, as is the Mark of the Beast, then Revelation 9:4 could be referring to something symbolic and/or spiritual. These “locusts” are only able to hurt those who “have not the seal of God in their foreheads”, which is directly contrasted with what or who they could NOT hurt — the “grass of the earth” and green things and any tree. This could be referring to the people of God who HAVE the seal of God in their foreheads. (cf Job 5:25, “You shall also know that your descendants shall be many, And your offspring like the grass of the earth“; John 15:4,8, “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself … unless you abide in Me … By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples”; Luke 13:18-19, “Then He said, ‘What is the kingdom of God like? … It is like a mustard seed … and it grew and became a large tree…”). Even the “Israel of God” is likened to a tree (Rom 11:24-26). Since the seal of God and Mark of the Beast are spiritual, I would surmise that the “locusts” are not able to spiritually harm the elect (the ekklesia), that is to say, they cannot deceive them (Matthew 24:24; cf Rev 3:10). It wouldn’t be referring to literal, physical harm because there are many Christians who are being killed for the faith of Jesus, even as we speak (Rev 14:2). But these “locusts” are able to inflict detrimental spiritual harm upon those who do not have the seal of God “in their foreheads” (Rev 16:10), and we see this played out today in full view.”

    Yes, I think that’s it. “Don’t hurt any green thing, neither any tree”:

    John 15:4, “Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.”

    To not be hurt we need to stay green. Islam is the substitute, false green, Christians are “true green”

    Psa 1:3, “He will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water, Which yields its fruit in its season, And its leaf does not wither; And in whatever he does, he prospers.”

    Psa 1:5, “The wicked are not so, But they are like chaff which the wind drives away.”

    Symbolism requires us to dig deep, to let the HS lead us to scripture for the answers.

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  12. Anonymous
    12/29/2012 at 8:53 PM

    this article is a lie

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