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Saudi King Calls for the Formation of a Sunni Arab Super State Into One Unified Diplomatic and Military Confederation


Wouldn’t it be interesting to witness the formation of two divided unions within the kingdom of Islam — one Sunni and one Shia — each comprised of five nations each? Although Bahrain is currently included as part of the six-member Gulf Cooperation Council, a large majority of its population is Shi’ite and resentment continues to simmer against the Sunni monarchy with no end in sight …

By Gavriel Queenann – “King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia formally called for the formation of a Gulf Union on a backdrop of regional unrest and growing tensions with rival Iran.

‘I ask today that we move from a phase of cooperation to a phase of union within a single entity,’ Abdullah said during his address at the opening session of the six-member Gulf Cooperation Council conference in Riyadh.

‘You must realise that our security and stability are threatened and we need to live up to our responsibilities,’ said King Abdullah.

‘Our summit opens in the shadow of challenges that require vigilance and a united stance,’ he added.

The GCC — comprised of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman and the United Arab Emirates — was formed in 1981 as a security alliance to counter post-revolution Iran.

While Abdullah did not speak directly to the nature such a union might take, the six-member GCC has been openly discussing transforming their alliance into a unified diplomatic and military confederation for months now.

It has also been actively moving to expand its ranks. The GCC opened integration negotiations with Jordan earlier this month, and is engaged in exploratory talks with Morocco.

Last week GCC officials revealed they were making the inclusion of Egypt – the region’s most populous and militarily powerful Arab country – a priority.

The GCC nations have technically been at war with Israel since 1948, raising uncomfortable questions about the future of Israel’s treaties with Egypt and Jordan should those nations join.

The move also comes on the heels of the GCC flexing its muscles in the Arab League, where it moved to isolate key Iran ally Syria over the bloody crackdown of President Bashar al-Assad that has killed over 5,000 civilians.

In a clear reference to Syria, Abdullah urged his GCC allies to help their ‘Arab brothers so that the blood stops flowing and to guard against the risks of foreign intervention.’

Analysts say isolating Assad also weakens Iran’s proxy in Lebanon, the Shi’ite terror organization Hizbullah, which relies on Syria as a land-bridge to Tehran.” Read more.

  1. Willard
    05/14/2012 at 2:35 PM

    ICA – “Wouldn’t it be interesting to witness the formation of two divided unions within the kingdom of Islam — one Sunni and one Shia — each comprised of five nations each”

    The picture is getting ever more clear – one leg Sunni and one leg Shiite

    Da 2:33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay

    Da 2:40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.
    Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
    Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
    Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

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  2. ICA
    05/14/2012 at 4:35 PM

    Iran has even called upon the world’s Muslims to form an international Islamic power bloc of its own.

    http://wp.me/p1qlPa-2ax

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  3. Anonymous
    05/14/2012 at 6:35 PM

    This came up again today. They’re talking a six nation union, but have put off the final decision until December. Seems like amidst all of the prophetic theorizing, the real deal is unfolding right before our eyes. The Lord will be filling in the details, we just need to buckle up, hitch our wagon to His Star and hang on for the ride.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/14/us-gulf-union-idUSBRE84D0MH20120514

    AHF

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  4. Willard
    05/14/2012 at 8:29 PM

    Is there not a prophetic question though regards Saudi Arabia (Dedan) being left out of such an alliance ?

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  5. Anonymous
    05/15/2012 at 12:46 PM

    Well, SA appears to get taken out by Iran a la Isaiah 21. But, IF SA is the harlot of Rev. 17, then maybe it is just a question of timing. I mean, “Babylon” has to be around for the tribulation period, right? At least most of it anyway. Dedan is mentioned in Ezek. 38:13, so it must still be around at that point in the timeline.

    AHF

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  6. Anonymous
    05/15/2012 at 12:58 PM

    I just had another thought. If SA is the “woman who rides the beast”, then she is the one holding the reins controlling those ten “horns” or kings, at least initially. At some point, they turn on her (Rev. 17:16). So, isn’t it possible that SA will be the driving force in the formation of the alliance, but is then destroyed by it?

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  7. Willard
    05/15/2012 at 1:30 PM

    AHF – I agree with your thoughts I think Mecca is the Harlot that rides the Beast – this is pretty much the way I see it as well – I continue to have this question that I cannot find an answer to – Who is the False Prophet – where does he come from or out of ?? I am questioning if the possibility is that it may not be the next Pope ? any thoughts!!

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  8. ICA
    05/15/2012 at 2:13 PM

    Anonymous :

    I just had another thought. If SA is the “woman who rides the beast”, then she is the one holding the reins controlling those ten “horns” or kings, at least initially. At some point, they turn on her (Rev. 17:16). So, isn’t it possible that SA will be the driving force in the formation of the alliance, but is then destroyed by it?

    Saudi Arabia fed the Islamic Beast it rides with hatred and an extremist death-loving ideology. I tend to believe that this radicalized Beast (radical Shiite Islam allied with Al Qaeda and like-minded affiliates) is what will turn on the woman (the desert kingdom’s House of Saud whom they view as corrupt and in need of “purification”).

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  9. ICA
    05/15/2012 at 2:17 PM

    Willard :

    AHF – I agree with your thoughts I think Mecca is the Harlot that rides the Beast – this is pretty much the way I see it as well – I continue to have this question that I cannot find an answer to – Who is the False Prophet – where does he come from or out of ?? I am questioning if the possibility is that it may not be the next Pope ? any thoughts!!

    There are a few views in this regard. 1) Since one cannot become a Muslim if they do not acknowledge the ‘prophet Mohammed’ and recite the Islamic creed (Shahada) by declaring “There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is the messenger of Allah”, the False Prophet may be Mohammed himself. 2) It may be the “prophet Jesus” who will, according to Islam, return in the End of Days with Al Mahdi. Muslims believe that the “prophet Jesus” will be subservient to Al Mahdi and will destroy the cross and have all Christians & Jews killed who do not convert to Islam. 3) It could be the collective body of Islamic sheiks/imams who constantly spew hatred, incitement and issue “fatwas” (Islamic religious decrees) against Jews, Christians and all who oppose Islam. These men relentlessly claim to speak for “Allah” and proclaim to the Ummah about “Allah’s” future for Jews and Christians. We even see them today claiming that calamities and natural disasters that affect non-Muslims as miraculous, divine punishments from Allah.

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  10. 05/15/2012 at 3:28 PM

    ICA :

    Willard :
    Who is the False Prophet – where does he come from or out of ??

    There are a few views in this regard. 1) Since one cannot become a Muslim if they do not acknowledge the ‘prophet Mohammed’ and recite the Islamic creed (Shahada) by declaring “There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is the messenger of Allah”, the False Prophet may be Mohammed himself…

    I like this view in a lot of ways, since I have no particular problem seeing some of Revelation fulfilled already. The issue is, however that the text says:

    Then I saw another beast (ID’ed as “the false prophet” in Rev Ch.s 16, 19 & 20) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke as a dragon. He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. (Rev 13:11-12)

    If we assume that “the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed” is the revived Caliphate, which has not yet come into being, then what of the other beast/false prophet who seems to appear even after this? I don’t think we have enough info to determine exactly who/what the false prophet is, if Rev 13 is chronological and we’re correct on the identity of the 1st Beast.

    BTW, does everybody else see the “another beast” of Rev 13 being the false prophet of later chapters? Mike Bickle taught that several years ago when I listened to his end times series and I didn’t see a reason to question it.

    ICA
    2) It may be the “prophet Jesus” who will, according to Islam, return in the End of Days with Al Mahdi. Muslims believe that the “prophet Jesus” will be subservient to Al Mahdi and will destroy the cross and have all Christians & Jews killed who do not convert to Islam….

    This is what Joel R. believes and aligns nicely with scripture; it leaves us waiting to see what develops.

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  11. Anonymous
    05/15/2012 at 3:51 PM

    I have considered the possibility as well that the false prophet is Mohammed. I, too, have no problem with some parts of Rev. being “backward looking” in its fulfillment. However, I have always had a problem with the “two horns like a lamb” part – just doesn’t fit Mohammed in any way, shape or form. The idea that it may refer to the false “Jesus” of Islamic prophecy is a much better fit.

    However, since horns almost always depict kings/kingdoms in the prophetic scriptures, what are we to make of the horns on this lamb?

    AHF

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    • ICA
      05/15/2012 at 4:29 PM

      Maybe the two branches of Islam (Sunni and Shia) that are both waiting for their Savior, the “Islamic Messiah” al Mahdi.

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  12. Anonymous
    05/15/2012 at 4:21 PM

    …perhaps yet another depiction of the Sunni/Shia divided union?

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  13. Anonymous
    05/15/2012 at 4:39 PM

    LOL! Looks like we were struck with the same thought at the same time, ICA.

    AHF

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  14. 05/15/2012 at 5:03 PM

    Good thought on the two horns, both of you.

    Are we agreed that “another beast” of Rev 13 = “false prophet” of 16, 19 and 20?

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  15. Willard
    05/15/2012 at 5:51 PM

    My reasoning for thinking and I may be completely wrong in this and that is that the FP may be the RCC is because of the two horns like a lamb – the lamb is generally associated with Christians like the lamb of God or the Jews who sacrificed lambs and sheep like at Pass Over etc – The Beast after a short period of time turns against the FP as well again maybe pointing to a Pope – but like I say it is all conjecture at this point

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    • 05/15/2012 at 5:54 PM

      Will,

      Doesn’t turn on the FP, turns on the harlot/woman riding the beast, right?

      Kurt

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  16. ICA
    05/15/2012 at 6:42 PM

    Kurt J. :

    Good thought on the two horns, both of you.

    Are we agreed that “another beast” of Rev 13 = “false prophet” of 16, 19 and 20?

    I’m of the opinion, at least at this point in time, that the first Beast with the “head wound” that was healed is either a revived Caliphate (a full-fledged official Caliphate which will then coincide with the appearance of the Mahdi) or it could possibly be what is taking place right now in front of our very own eyes: the “Arab Spring” and the Islamist revival in the world of Islam, which is effectively imitating the might and influence that was once the Ottoman Empire. If it is the latter, then the second Beast may be what comes next, the actual Caliphate or Mahdi which “exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed” (Rev 13:12).

    The second Beast will force everyone under its control to affirm Islam’s creed, the Shahada (“There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is the messenger of Allah”) to acknowledge Mohammed, to affirm the religious ideology of the first Beast before it in order to be counted amongst the Ummah, the “multitude” of a man, Mohammed. “The Mahdi will offer the religion of Islam to the Jews and Christians; if they accept it they will be spared, otherwise they will be killed” (“Al Mahdi and the End of Time”, Muhammad Ibn Izzat and Muhammad Arif, 1997).

    This will be one of the reasons why the Mahdi is called the “savior” of humanity, because according to Islam, this “Islamic Messiah” will unite the Ummah and bring “peace and justice” to the world by forcing the world to convert to the “religion of peace”, the only religion that will be accepted by “Allah”, according to the Qur’an. If people do not obey the Mahdi and convert to Islam, they will be unable to obtain salvation and will be unable to obtain eternal life, a path to which he will claim to lead them.

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  17. Willard
    05/15/2012 at 8:44 PM

    Kurt – I would agree with your comments the below

    Are we agreed that “another beast” of Rev 13 = “false prophet” of 16, 19 and 20?

    Another line of thought I just had – understanding that the Sunnis and the Shiites hate each other maybe it is these two sects that will unite for a short period of time ? One producing the A/C and the other the F/P and than having a falling out?? The Shiites are the big promoters of the Mahdi and Qom is a major Islamic center to the Shiites in Iran.

    Kurt – I understand this as the A/C turning against the F/P

    Rev 17:16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire

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  18. ICA
    05/15/2012 at 9:02 PM

    Willard, “Another line of thought I just had – understanding that the Sunnis and the Shiites hate each other maybe it is these two sects that will unite for a short period of time ?”

    I see it this way, too. Although the Mahdi has a heavier emphasis in Shia Islam there will be many, many Sunnis who accept al Mahdi — particularly those within the more extreme strain of Sunni Islam. (Belief in the Mahdi is mandatory in Sunni Islam as well). It is even taught by both Shia and Sunni branches that the Mahdi will unite the Ummah together, even many groups that were previously considered at odds with one another. And now we’re beginning to see the perfect political situation in the Middle East that is ripe for this to happen. For example, see the articles below:

    * Sunni Al Qaeda’s Big Fat Shiite Iranian Wedding
    * Shiite Iran Takes Aim at Israel Through Sunni Muslim Brotherhood Alliance
    * Iran: Ayatollah Khamenei Calls for World’s Muslim Nations to Form an International Islamic Power Bloc
    * Muslim Brotherhood Calls for a ‘United Arab States’ with Jerusalem as its Capital
    * Turkey Warns Against Shi’ite-Sunni Cold War, Encourages Close Contact With All Sides

    They would join together for one united goal: to destroy Israel. Whether one is Shia or Sunni, they both agree that Israel must be destroyed. Even Richard Engel, a correspondent working for a secular news organization, understands what is happening:

    * NBC’s Engel ‘Worried’ About ‘Ferociously Anti-Israel’ Arab Street and Concludes ‘This Thing Ends in Jerusalem’

    Though united, however, the fact remains that they still remain divided. This will likely be one of the contributing factors that causes the Islamic armies of Magog (Armageddon) to turn on each other and attack one another. Something will Happen that causes a huge crack in their alliance, and “every man’s sword shall be against his brother”, for in that day “a great panic from the LORD will be among them. Everyone will seize the hand of his neighbor, And raise his hand against his neighbor’s hand” (Eze 38:21-22; Zech 14:12-13).

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  19. Willard
    05/15/2012 at 10:00 PM

    ICA – I would have to agree with you as it makes a lot of sense and appears to fit todays political scene and as you say Ezek 38 would support this line of thinking

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  20. 05/16/2012 at 1:17 AM

    ICA :
    I’m of the opinion, at least at this point in time, that the first Beast with the “head wound” that was healed is either a revived Caliphate (a full-fledged official Caliphate which will then coincide with the appearance of the Mahdi) or it could possibly be what is taking place right now in front of our very own eyes: the “Arab Spring” and the Islamist revival in the world of Islam, which is effectively imitating the might and influence that was once the Ottoman Empire. If it is the latter, then the second Beast may be what comes next, the actual Caliphate or Mahdi which “exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed” (Rev 13:12).

    This is definitely a possibility – it would put us on a “fast track” to finale, if indeed this is what scripture is predicting.

    ICA :
    The second Beast will force everyone under its control to affirm Islam’s creed, the Shahada (“There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is the messenger of Allah”) to acknowledge Mohammed, to affirm the religious ideology of the first Beast before it in order to be counted amongst the Ummah, the “multitude” of a man, Mohammed. “The Mahdi will offer the religion of Islam to the Jews and Christians; if they accept it they will be spared, otherwise they will be killed” (“Al Mahdi and the End of Time”, Muhammad Ibn Izzat and Muhammad Arif, 1997).

    So perhaps the second beast/false prophet equates with the Mahdi.

    And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.

    I could see this being a reference to the Shahada, but what would be the meaning of this:

    He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men.

    The wrath of Allah, through the rampaging Ummah (i.e., the Qu’ran burnings in Afghanistan and the local reaction)? Perhaps its yet to occur.

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  21. 05/16/2012 at 1:35 AM

    They’ll (KSA) use their (AS) majority vote at the UN to get this moving. The wheel turns slowly but it is still turning.

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